* [***SPAM***] small space before some characters (: ; ! ?)
@ 2015-04-01 16:46 Csikos Bela
2015-04-02 4:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Csikos Bela @ 2015-04-01 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello:
Hungarian typography requires inserting small spaces before :, ;, ! and ? characters.
The width of this small space should be equal to that of the period (.). In latex magyarlatex (magyar.ldf) module (part of biblatex) contains definitions to achieve this. How could I set this in context?
Thanks in advance,
bcsikos
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* Re: small space before some characters (: ; ! ?)
2015-04-01 16:46 [***SPAM***] small space before some characters (: ; ! ?) Csikos Bela
@ 2015-04-02 4:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2015-04-02 10:05 ` Csikos Bela
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2015-04-02 4:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 01.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb Csikos Bela <bcsikos425@freemail.hu>:
>
> Hello:
>
> Hungarian typography requires inserting small spaces before :, ;, ! and ? characters.
> The width of this small space should be equal to that of the period (.). In latex magyarlatex (magyar.ldf) module (part of biblatex) contains definitions to achieve this. How could I set this in context?
You can use the french settings which also requires a small space before these characters.
\starttext
Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: small space before some characters (: ; ! ?)
2015-04-02 4:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2015-04-02 10:05 ` Csikos Bela
2015-04-02 11:40 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Csikos Bela @ 2015-04-02 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Schuster írta:
>
>> Am 01.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb Csikos Bela:
>>
>> Hello:
>>
>> Hungarian typography requires inserting small spaces before :, ;, ! and ? characters.
>> The width of this small space should be equal to that of the period (.). In latex magyarlatex (magyar.ldf) module (part of biblatex) contains definitions to achieve this. How could I set this in context?
>
>
>You can use the french settings which also requires a small space before these characters.
>
>\starttext
>
>Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>
>\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
>
>Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>
>\stoptext
Thanks!
It is something I'd like to have but the space inserted is too big, it looks like a normal interword space. It should be 1/3 or 1/4 interword space or the width of the dot (the visible part), but definitely less than a normal space. Is it possible to redefine the inserted space width?
Thanks,
bcsikos
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* Re: small space before some characters (: ; ! ?)
2015-04-02 10:05 ` Csikos Bela
@ 2015-04-02 11:40 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2015-04-02 15:21 ` Csikos Bela
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2015-04-02 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 02.04.2015 um 12:05 schrieb Csikos Bela <bcsikos425@freemail.hu>:
>
> Wolfgang Schuster írta:
>>
>>> Am 01.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb Csikos Bela:
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Hungarian typography requires inserting small spaces before :, ;, ! and ? characters.
>>> The width of this small space should be equal to that of the period (.). In latex magyarlatex (magyar.ldf) module (part of biblatex) contains definitions to achieve this. How could I set this in context?
>>
>>
>> You can use the french settings which also requires a small space before these characters.
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>>
>> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
>>
>> Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>>
>> \stoptext
>
> Thanks!
> It is something I'd like to have but the space inserted is too big, it looks like a normal interword space. It should be 1/3 or 1/4 interword space or the width of the dot (the visible part), but definitely less than a normal space. Is it possible to redefine the inserted space width?
\definecharacterspacing [hungarian]
\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["003A] [left=.1,alternative=1] % :
\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["003B] [left=.1,alternative=1] % ;
\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["003F] [left=.1,alternative=1] % ?
\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["0021] [left=.1,alternative=1] % !
\starttext
Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
Take a look at this.; this.: this.! or this.?
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
\setcharacterspacing[hungarian]
Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: small space before some characters (: ; ! ?)
2015-04-02 11:40 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2015-04-02 15:21 ` Csikos Bela
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From: Csikos Bela @ 2015-04-02 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Schuster írta:
>
>> Am 02.04.2015 um 12:05 schrieb Csikos Bela :
>>
>> Wolfgang Schuster írta:
>>>
>>>> Am 01.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb Csikos Bela:
>>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> Hungarian typography requires inserting small spaces before :, ;, ! and ? characters.
>>>> The width of this small space should be equal to that of the period (.). In latex magyarlatex (magyar.ldf) module (part of biblatex) contains definitions to achieve this. How could I set this in context?
>>>
>>>
>>> You can use the french settings which also requires a small space before these characters.
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>>>
>>> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
>>>
>>> Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> Thanks!
>> It is something I'd like to have but the space inserted is too big, it looks like a normal interword space. It should be 1/3 or 1/4 interword space or the width of the dot (the visible part), but definitely less than a normal space. Is it possible to redefine the inserted space width?
>
>\definecharacterspacing [hungarian]
>
>\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["003A] [left=.1,alternative=1] % :
>\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["003B] [left=.1,alternative=1] % ;
>\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["003F] [left=.1,alternative=1] % ?
>\setupcharacterspacing [hungarian] ["0021] [left=.1,alternative=1] % !
>
>\starttext
>
>Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>
>Take a look at this.; this.: this.! or this.?
>
>\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
>
>Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>
>\setcharacterspacing[hungarian]
>
>Take a look at this; this: this! or this?
>
>\stoptext
>
Yes, this looks OK.
Thank you a lot!
bcsikos
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