Extract only certain part of document (via modes)?

Extract only certain part of document (via modes)?

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

Dear list, and in particular Hans,

I asked the same question on stackexchange before today
(http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/337738/52406), and got the answer that
what I want to do might not be possible.

In my large document I have exercises (typeset with \startexercise
\stopexercise, defined as an enumeration). Is it possible to use modes
(or any other trick) to be able to compile the same file and get only
the exercises. For example,

context file.tex

should give the full document, while

context --mode=exercises file.tex

should give only all the exercises (or just everything "in one mode")?

/Mikael
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Re: Extract only certain part of document (via modes)?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Mikael P. Sundqvist <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>
> 6. November 2016 um 12:51
> Dear list, and in particular Hans,
>
> I asked the same question on stackexchange before today
> (http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/337738/52406), and got the answer that
> what I want to do might not be possible.
>
> In my large document I have exercises (typeset with \startexercise
> \stopexercise, defined as an enumeration). Is it possible to use modes
> (or any other trick) to be able to compile the same file and get only
> the exercises. For example,
>
> context file.tex
>
> should give the full document, while
>
> context --mode=exercises file.tex
>
> should give only all the exercises (or just everything "in one mode")?
You can put each exercise in a block and ask Hans to add a \saveblocks 
commands
which writes the content of all exercise blocks to a external file (like 
\savebuffer lets
you save the content of a buffer in a external file).


\defineblock[exercise]
\keepblocks [exercise]

\defineenumeration[exercise][text=Exercise]

%\doifmode{exercises}{\saveblocks[exercise][exercises.tex]}

\starttext

\beginexercise
     \startexercise
         This is the first exercise.
     \stopexercise
\endexercise

\beginexercise
     \startexercise
         This is the second exercise.
     \stopexercise
\endexercise

\stoptext


The content of this saved file can then be read by another file
to get a document which contains only the exercises.


\defineenumeration[exercise][text=Exercise]

\starttext

\doiffileelse{exercise}
   {\input{exercises}}
   {{\tttf Exercise file doesn’t exist.}}

\stoptext


Wolfgang

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Re: Extract only certain part of document (via modes)?

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mikael P. Sundqvist
> 6. November 2016 um 12:51
> Dear list, and in particular Hans,
>
> I asked the same question on stackexchange before today
> (http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/337738/52406), and got the answer that
> what I want to do might not be possible.
>
> In my large document I have exercises (typeset with \startexercise
> \stopexercise, defined as an enumeration). Is it possible to use modes
> (or any other trick) to be able to compile the same file and get only
> the exercises. For example,
>
> context file.tex
>
> should give the full document, while
>
> context --mode=exercises file.tex
>
> should give only all the exercises (or just everything "in one mode")?
>
> You can put each exercise in a block and ask Hans to add a \saveblocks
> commands
> which writes the content of all exercise blocks to a external file (like
> \savebuffer lets
> you save the content of a buffer in a external file).
>
>
> \defineblock[exercise]
> \keepblocks [exercise]
>
> \defineenumeration[exercise][text=Exercise]
>
> %\doifmode{exercises}{\saveblocks[exercise][exercises.tex]}
>
> \starttext
>
> \beginexercise
>     \startexercise
>         This is the first exercise.
>     \stopexercise
> \endexercise
>
> \beginexercise
>     \startexercise
>         This is the second exercise.
>     \stopexercise
> \endexercise
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> The content of this saved file can then be read by another file
> to get a document which contains only the exercises.
>
>
> \defineenumeration[exercise][text=Exercise]
>
> \starttext
>
> \doiffileelse{exercise}
>   {\input{exercises}}
>   {{\tttf Exercise file doesn’t exist.}}
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Thank you for the answer, I think that would be nice to have. Hans, do
you mind adding such a feature? Or do you have any other idea on the
problem as is?

/Mikael
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Re: Extract only certain part of document (via modes)?

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/6/2016 12:51 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> Dear list, and in particular Hans,
>
> I asked the same question on stackexchange before today
> (http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/337738/52406), and got the answer that
> what I want to do might not be possible.
>
> In my large document I have exercises (typeset with \startexercise
> \stopexercise, defined as an enumeration). Is it possible to use modes
> (or any other trick) to be able to compile the same file and get only
> the exercises. For example,
>
> context file.tex
>
> should give the full document, while
>
> context --mode=exercises file.tex
>
> should give only all the exercises (or just everything "in one mode")?

search for 'blocks' ...

\defineblock
...
\hideblocks
\keepblocks
\useblocks
\processblocks
\selectblocks

Hans

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Re: Extract only certain part of document (via modes)?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Hans Hagen <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>
> 10. November 2016 um 17:27
>
>
> search for 'blocks' ...
>
> \defineblock
> ...
> \hideblocks
> \keepblocks
> \useblocks
> \processblocks
> \selectblocks
This doesn’t solve the problem because he want a document which
contains *only* certain blocks and nothing else, a solution for this
is a commands (\saveblocks) which saves the content of a block
in a external file (like \savebuffer does).

Wolfgang

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table and \setuptables questions

[Csikos Bela]

Dear list members:

I have this simple table:

\starttext
\placetable[here]{title}{
\setuptables[bodyfont=8pt,rulethickness=0.04em]
\start
\setuplocalinterlinespace[2.2ex]
\starttable[|lp(5cm)|lp(5cm)|cp(2cm)|]
\HL[2]
\NC \bf First Column \NC \bf Second Column \NC \bf Third Column \NC \SR
\HL
\NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa turpis,
semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. \NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. \NC Lorem ipsum \NC \SR
\HL
\NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus
\NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus \NC Pellentesque \NC \SR
\HL
\NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec \NC \SR
\HL[2]
\stoptable
\stop}
\stoptext

I have some questions related to the above table.

1. How can I set the distance between the text (in rows) and the rule above and  below the text, separately?
I find that the rules are too close to the text. I tried \setuptables' height and depth options but those are
not what I need, I guess. What are height and depth options are for exactly?

2.  Can \setuptables[bodyfont=...] option use font sizes as \tfa, \tfb, \tfc, \tfx, \tfxx, or point size has to be
set explicitly? 

3. What is the distance option in \setuptables?

Thank you in advance,

bcsikos

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Re: table and \setuptables questions

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/11/2016 4:26 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
> Dear list members:
>
> I have this simple table:
>
> \starttext
> \placetable[here]{title}{
> \setuptables[bodyfont=8pt,rulethickness=0.04em]
> \start
> \setuplocalinterlinespace[2.2ex]
> \starttable[|lp(5cm)|lp(5cm)|cp(2cm)|]
> \HL[2]
> \NC \bf First Column \NC \bf Second Column \NC \bf Third Column \NC \SR
> \HL
> \NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa turpis,
> semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. \NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. \NC Lorem ipsum \NC \SR
> \HL
> \NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus
> \NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus \NC Pellentesque \NC \SR
> \HL
> \NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec \NC \SR
> \HL[2]
> \stoptable
> \stop}
> \stoptext
>
> I have some questions related to the above table.
>
> 1. How can I set the distance between the text (in rows) and the rule above and  below the text, separately?
> I find that the rules are too close to the text. I tried \setuptables' height and depth options but those are
> not what I need, I guess. What are height and depth options are for exactly?

it's not configurable

i'll an openup key


\unprotect

\def\tabl_table_normal_full_rule
   {\starttablenoalign
    \!ttGetHalfRuleThickness
    \scratchdistance\directtablesparameter\c!openup
    \ifzeropt\scratchdistance\else\kern\scratchdistance\fi
    \hrule\s!height\scratchdimen\s!depth\scratchdimen
    \ifzeropt\scratchdistance\else\kern\scratchdistance\fi
    \stoptablenoalign}

\setuptables
   [\c!openup=\zeropoint]

\protect

...

% \setuplocalinterlinespace[2.2ex]
\setuptables
   [openup=-.2ex]


> 2.  Can \setuptables[bodyfont=...] option use font sizes as \tfa, \tfb, \tfc, \tfx, \tfxx, or point size has to be
> set explicitly?

indeed

> 3. What is the distance option in \setuptables?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> bcsikos
>
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Re: table and \setuptables questions

[Csikos Bela]

Hans Hagen írta:
>On 11/11/2016 4:26 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>> Dear list members:
>>
>> I have this simple table:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placetable[here]{title}{
>> \setuptables[bodyfont=8pt,rulethickness=0.04em]
>> \start
>> \setuplocalinterlinespace[2.2ex]
>> \starttable[|lp(5cm)|lp(5cm)|cp(2cm)|]
>> \HL[2]
>> \NC \bf First Column \NC \bf Second Column \NC \bf Third Column \NC \SR
>> \HL
>> \NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa turpis,
>> semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. \NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. \NC Lorem ipsum \NC \SR
>> \HL
>> \NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus
>> \NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus \NC Pellentesque \NC \SR
>> \HL
>> \NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec \NC \SR
>> \HL[2]
>> \stoptable
>> \stop}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> I have some questions related to the above table.
>>
>> 1. How can I set the distance between the text (in rows) and the rule above and  below the text, separately?
>> I find that the rules are too close to the text. I tried \setuptables' height and depth options but those are
>> not what I need, I guess. What are height and depth options are for exactly?

Thank you for your answer.

>it's not configurable

Is it configurable in other table types, e.g. in TABLE or xtables?

>i'll an openup key
>
>
>\unprotect
>
>\def\tabl_table_normal_full_rule
>   {\starttablenoalign
>    \!ttGetHalfRuleThickness
>    \scratchdistance\directtablesparameter\c!openup
>    \ifzeropt\scratchdistance\else\kern\scratchdistance\fi
>    \hrule\s!height\scratchdimen\s!depth\scratchdimen
>    \ifzeropt\scratchdistance\else\kern\scratchdistance\fi
>    \stoptablenoalign}
>
>\setuptables
>   [\c!openup=\zeropoint]
>
>\protect
>
>...
>
>% \setuplocalinterlinespace[2.2ex]
>\setuptables
>   [openup=-.2ex]

Thank you. This forks for the distance between the rule and the top of the following text,
but not for the distance between the bottom of the text and the following rule.
How would it be that?

Thank you in advance,

bcsikos
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Re: table and \setuptables questions

[Csikos Bela]

Please disregard my last  message.
I haven't noticed that an answer arrived a little bit earlier I posted it.

But I don't understand why it didn't go in a new thread.

Best regards,

bcsikos
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table and \setuptables questions

[Csikos Bela]

Dear list members:

Last time I sent this message to the wrong thread accidentally. Now I send it again, hopefully to a new thread.

I have this simple table:

\starttext
\placetable[here]{title}{
\setuptables[bodyfont=8pt,rulethickness=0.04em]
\start
\setuplocalinterlinespace[2.2ex]
\starttable[|lp(5cm)|lp(5cm)|cp(2cm)|]
\HL[2]
\NC \bf First Column \NC \bf Second Column \NC \bf Third Column \NC \SR
\HL
\NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa turpis,
semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. \NC Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. \NC Lorem ipsum \NC \SR
\HL
\NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus
\NC Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus \NC Pellentesque \NC \SR
\HL
\NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget Donec nunc lorem, sollicitudin vel sodales eget \NC Donec \NC \SR
\HL[2]
\stoptable
\stop}
\stoptext

I have some questions related to the above table.

1. How can I set the distance between the text (in rows) and the rule above and below the text, separately?
I find that the rules are too close to the text. I tried \setuptables' height and depth options but those are not what I need.  (For example the depth option adds extra space in rows where it is unnecessary.) What are height and depth options are for exactly?

2. Can \setuptables[bodyfont=...] option use font sizes as \tfa, \tfb, \tfc, \tfx, \tfxx, or point size has to be
set explicitly? 

3. What is the distance option in \setuptables?

Thank you in advance,

bcsikos
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