From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/45150 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mohamed Bana Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:29:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225157470 12471 80.91.229.12 (28 Oct 2008 01:31:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:31:10 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Oct 28 02:32:10 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KudRH-0005dB-Q2 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:32:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1E81FBC9; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:30:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08033-01; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:30:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CEE1FA4C; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:30:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E7A1FA4C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:30:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05539-05-5 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:29:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8851FA2B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:29:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KudOe-0002JS-62 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:29:24 +0000 Original-Received: from 87-194-191-26.bethere.co.uk ([87.194.191.26]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:29:24 +0000 Original-Received: from m.bana.lists by 87-194-191-26.bethere.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:29:24 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 219 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 87-194-191-26.bethere.co.uk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:45150 Archived-At: Hi Aditya, I've tried compiling your thesis. It failed with; texmfstart texexec "thesis.tex" TeXExec | processing document 'thesis.tex' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 TeXExec | writing option file thesis.top TeXExec | using randomseed 104 TeXExec | tex engine: luatex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en (thesis.tex ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.16 15:06 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.16 int: english/english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv lua : used config path - C:/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf lua : used cache path - C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2fea56f92e5267d7cc9662e4d5f52e1e ) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex)) system : cont-old loaded (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys loaded (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded specials : tex loaded system : thesis.top loaded (thesis.top specials : loading definition file tpd (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkiv)) specials : fdf loaded (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.mkiv)) specials : fdf loaded ) (thesis.tuo) (thesis.tuo) systems : begin file thesis at line 2 systems : begin file env-thesis at line 4 (env-thesis.tex system : module abr-aditya not found system : module bib loaded (t-bib.tex publications : loading formatting style from bibl-apa (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/bib/bibl-apa.tex) publications : loading database from thesis.bbl (thesis.bbl)) system : module ctags not found publications : loading formatting style from bibl-ssa (bibl-ssa.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex) (delicious.tex (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex) (delicious.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex) (delicious.tex)) system : module mathsets not found ! Undefined control sequence. \definemathset l.377 \definemathset [EXP] [text={\doublestroke{E}}] ? I removed the following from env-thesis.tex; \definetypeface [mainface] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] [features=default] \definetypeface [mainface] [ss] [sans] [delicious] [default] [features=default, rscale=1.1] \definetypeface [mainface] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default] [features=default, rscale=1.1] \definetypeface [mainface] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] [encoding=texnansi] %\definetypeface [mainface] [mm] [math] [euler] [euler] [encoding=texnansi, rscale=1.03] \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt] Thanks Mohamed Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Piotr wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the >> following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the >> answers, which I now hope to find here. >> >> It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my >> PhD thesis (in chemistry). I have used Miktex some years ago during my >> studies for some project reports, and I remember beeing quite >> satisfied with the results. My Master thesis, on the other hand, I >> wrote in word.. and although I remember not having too many >> difficulties, there were some nasty obstacles to be overcome. >> Obstacles which I simply do not want to risk having repeated a second >> time on a much bigger scale. >> I this mailing list I read several reports of people who either had >> written their thesis in Latex or ConTeXt. There was a mention of Latex >> beeing designed for mathematic purposes, while ConTeXt was said to be >> better suited for the intergration of graphics or larger/more complex >> layout changes. >> >> 1) Finding the right context >> For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex >> distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of >> ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in >> order to work with ConTeXt? I am running Windows Vista (64-bit). Or is >> there a ConTeXt stand alone package that will absolutely satisfy my me >> in my needs? In principle, all I need is >> >> 2) The right editor >> What is the preferred editor for ConTeXt? for such a project? Is there >> any loss in functionality when using Texniccenter with ConTeXt than >> with MikTex instead? > > Depends on what functions you need. There are a few editors which have > basic support for ConTeXt (compile document, view pdf, jump to error, > etc.). Hans uses Scite and includes a context enabled scite in the > windows distribution available on prama-ade.com. Irdis has written support > for Notepad++. Vim and emacs have some basic support. I do not know what > features texniccenter and winedit provide for context. > >> 3) I have seen some thesis templates/examples in this mailinglist. Can >> anyone point me to additional sources regarding the creation of a PhD >> Thesis with ConTeXt? > > Each institute has different requirements for phd thesis, so one template > is not going to fit the bill. I did my thesis in context, and you can have > a look at the sources and the output: > > http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.pdf > http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz > > The easier way to go about this will be to look at the formatting > specifications of the thesis, and try to understand how to implement them > in context one by one. > >> What is the advantage over Latex, what are the >> disadvantages? Is there a win-win distribution somewhere on the table? > > Advantage: In most cases, others have written a style for what you want, > so you don't have to create a style on your own. > > Disadvantage: When you do have to create a style on your own, it can be > difficult, even in packages which are supposed to be easy to configure > >> 4) Has anyone used a typesetting suite like ContTeXt with CVS? > > As others have said, the source files are simply text files. So you can > use any version control that you want. > >> 5) Is the ConTeXt reference system compatible with Endnote? > > I have no experience with endnote. I have seen endnote to bibtex > converters. If you can convert to bibtex, then using the references with > context is relatively easy. > >> Is there any point to have latex installed, when context can do the >> trick? > > As Mojca said, you may want to submit something to a journal which accepts > latex files. > >> Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is >> the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? > > Again I agree with what Mojca said. If latex can do the job, use it. If > you are happy with one of the defaul latex styles, do not use too many > figures in your document, do not want text wrapping around figures, use > latex. > >> Apart >> that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? > > Context has a more consistent interface to all the commands. This makes it > easier to remember how to configure things. > > Aditya > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________