Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Taco Hoekwater]

Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a strange problem and I am not sure what causes it.

This is a context question, redirecting to the mailing list.

(we will still need a small test file, though)

Best wishes,
Taco

> When I run texlive on one of my .tex files in Gentoo (texlive-2008),
> 
> \bTD[width=120pt,topframe=on,height=32pt,align={right,low}] \
> {\externalfigure[flcz.png] [width=20pt]} Czech \eTD
> 
> the result is that I have the flag, then space and the word Czech
> 
> In Archlinux (texlive 2009) the text is behind the flag, ie. invisible
> 
> When I change  \ {\extern.... to for example xx \{\extern... , in both
> versions it is correct, ie. xx flag Czech
> 
> Is that
> - my file issue
> - Archlinux issue
> - texlive version difference issue
> 
> ?
> 
> Thank you for any hints...
> 
> Lubos

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Hello,
(sorry for posting to wrong group first).

\setupoutput     [pdftex]
\enableregime    [utf]
\usetypescript   [modern][ec]
\setupbodyfont   [ss,10pt]
\mainlanguage    [en]
\setuppapersize  [A4][A4]
\setupcolors     [state=start]
\setuppagenumber [state=stop]

\starttext
\setupTABLE[background=color,backgroundcolor=white]

\bTABLE
\bTABLEbody
\bTR[topframe=off]
  \bTD[nr=4,width=100pt,frame=off] Languages \eTD
  \bTD[width=120pt,frame=off,rightfheight=32pt,align={right,low}] \
{\externalfigure[flcz.png] [width=20pt]} Czech, Slovak \eTD
  \bTD[width=240pt,frame=off,height=20pt,align={right,low}] native \eTD
\eTR

\bTR
  \bTD[align={right,low},height=20pt,frame=off] \
{\externalfigure[fluk.png] [width=20pt,align={right,low}]}\ English\eTD
  \bTD[align={right,low},height=20pt,frame=off] fluently
written/spoken\eTD
\eTR

\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
\stoptext

Here is how it shows in 2008, ie. correctly :
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4258250861_30120b1923_o.png
Here is the "incorrect" 2009 document:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4259008582_dc05e21324_o.png

Thank you for any hint,

Lubos

Taco Hoekwater, Sat, 09 Jan 2010 07:49:00 +0100:

> Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have a strange problem and I am not sure what causes it.
> 
> This is a context question, redirecting to the mailing list.
> 
> (we will still need a small test file, though)
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
> 
>> When I run texlive on one of my .tex files in Gentoo (texlive-2008),
>> 
>> \bTD[width=120pt,topframe=on,height=32pt,align={right,low}] \
>> {\externalfigure[flcz.png] [width=20pt]} Czech \eTD
>> 
>> the result is that I have the flag, then space and the word Czech
>> 
>> In Archlinux (texlive 2009) the text is behind the flag, ie. invisible
>> 
>> When I change  \ {\extern.... to for example xx \{\extern... , in both
>> versions it is correct, ie. xx flag Czech
>> 
>> Is that
>> - my file issue
>> - Archlinux issue
>> - texlive version difference issue
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Thank you for any hints...
>> 
>> Lubos
> 
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Taco Hoekwater]

Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> Hello,
> (sorry for posting to wrong group first).

Output looks ok here with the latest context release, so it could be a
bug in the context included in texlive. The probable cause is that
\<newline> does not switch to horizontal mode like it should, so
an extra space before the newline should fix it.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Taco Hoekwater, Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:51:27 +0100:

> Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>> Hello,
>> (sorry for posting to wrong group first).
> 
> Output looks ok here with the latest context release, so it could be a
> bug in the context included in texlive. The probable cause is that
> \<newline> does not switch to horizontal mode like it should, so an
> extra space before the newline should fix it.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
> 

Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the 
buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

Lubos

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Taco Hoekwater]

Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater, Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:51:27 +0100:
> 
>> Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> (sorry for posting to wrong group first).
>> Output looks ok here with the latest context release, so it could be a
>> bug in the context included in texlive. The probable cause is that
>> \<newline> does not switch to horizontal mode like it should, so an
>> extra space before the newline should fix it.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Taco
>>
> 
> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the 
> buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

Unless you mark it 'action taken' or something it won't matter:
the bug appears already fixed upstream.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the
> buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
> 
> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
> 
> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
> 
> which installs the latest context-beta.
> 
> Aditya

Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after
(1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git              
[###########################################################################] 
100%
mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... 
mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... 
mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... 
mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... 
mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... 
mktexlsr: Done.

and secondly, when I run
/opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex

the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)

Lubos


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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Vedran Miletić]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Lubos Kolouch <lubos.kolouch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
>>
>> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
>>
>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
>>
>> which installs the latest context-beta.
>>
>> Aditya
>
> Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after
> (1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git
> [###########################################################################]
> 100%
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Done.
>
> and secondly, when I run
> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex
>
> the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)
>
> Lubos
>
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You need to press Enter twice to answer an invisible prompt (in case
you care, I found out about that accidentally).

Regards,

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Vedran Miletić, Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:02:02 +0100:

> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Lubos Kolouch <lubos.kolouch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:
>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>>>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
>>>
>>> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
>>>
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
>>>
>>> which installs the latest context-beta.
>>>
>>> Aditya
>>
>> Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after (1/1) aktualizace
>> context-minimals-git
>> 
[###########################################################################]
>> 100%
>> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr:
>> Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done.
>>
>> and secondly, when I run
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex
>>
>> the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)
>>
>> Lubos
>>
>>
>> 
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>>
> You need to press Enter twice to answer an invisible prompt (in case you
> care, I found out about that accidentally).
> 
> Regards,
>
> Vedran Miletić

Thanks, after pressing Enter twice (in two cases) I could install the 
package, however the output is still wrong :(

Lubos


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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Vedran Miletić]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lubos Kolouch <lubos.kolouch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, after pressing Enter twice (in two cases) I could install the
> package, however the output is still wrong :(

That's a bug in ConTeXt then, likely.

Regards,

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

> Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
>>
>> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
>>
>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
>>
>> which installs the latest context-beta.
>>
>> Aditya
>
> Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after
> (1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git
> [###########################################################################]
> 100%
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Done.

Most likely that is because luatools is asking to generate luatex-cache 
directory. I thought that I had taken care of it, I will check again.

> and secondly, when I run
> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex
>
> the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)

Did you run

source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex

before running texexec?

The post-install hook is supposed to display that message, but if the 
installation hung before that, you could not have seen that message.

Aditya
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Aditya Mahajan, Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:18:55 -0500:

> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> 
>> Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:
>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>>>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
>>>
>>> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
>>>
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
>>>
>>> which installs the latest context-beta.
>>>
>>> Aditya
>>
>> Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after (1/1) aktualizace
>> context-minimals-git
>> 
[###########################################################################]
>> 100%
>> mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr:
>> Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done.
> 
> Most likely that is because luatools is asking to generate luatex-cache
> directory. I thought that I had taken care of it, I will check again.
> 
>> and secondly, when I run
>> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex
>>
>> the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)
> 
> Did you run
> 
> source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex
> 
> before running texexec?
> 
> The post-install hook is supposed to display that message, but if the
> installation hung before that, you could not have seen that message.
> 
> Aditya
> 
Hoorray! After the command the output looks nice!

Thank you again

Lubos

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
> 
> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
> 
> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
> 
> which installs the latest context-beta.
> 
> Aditya
> 

Hello Aditya,

I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again?
The layout is wrong :(

Thank you

Lubos

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Taco Hoekwater]

Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:
> 
>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
>> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
>>
>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
>>
>> which installs the latest context-beta.
>>
>> Aditya
>>
> 
> Hello Aditya,
> 
> I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again?
> The layout is wrong :(

Me != Aditya, but I guess it would help if you explained what exactly is
wrong ...

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

> Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
>>
>> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
>>
>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
>>
>> which installs the latest context-beta.
>>
>> Aditya
>>
>
> Hello Aditya,
>
> I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again?
> The layout is wrong :(

Do you mean that the arch linux package context-minimals-git does not 
install, or that something is wrong in the output of a document compiled 
by ConTeXt?

Aditya
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Taco Hoekwater, Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:33:27 +0100:

> Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>> Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy
>>>> (Archlinux) texlive package.
>>> You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:
>>>
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html
>>>
>>> which installs the latest context-beta.
>>>
>>> Aditya
>>>
>>>
>> Hello Aditya,
>> 
>> I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken
>> again? The layout is wrong :(
> 
> Me != Aditya, but I guess it would help if you explained what exactly is
> wrong ...
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
> 

Sorry... the package installs fine, however the output is wrong again 
(the text is behind/below the flag, not right to it)

Lubos

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

> Sorry... the package installs fine, however the output is wrong again
> (the text is behind/below the flag, not right to it)

Can you attach a minimal example and the log file?

Aditya
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

I can, however it was already discussed here in this thread and fixed 
once...

minimal file :
http://dpaste.com/159433/

log:
http://dpaste.com/159432/

Here is how it should show, ie. correctly :
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4258250861_30120b1923_o.png
Here is the "incorrect" document:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4259008582_dc05e21324_o.png

Thank you for any hint,

Lubos

Lubos


Aditya Mahajan, Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:54:38 -0500:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> 
>> Sorry... the package installs fine, however the output is wrong again
>> (the text is behind/below the flag, not right to it)
> 
> Can you attach a minimal example and the log file?
> 
> Aditya
> 
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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

> I can, however it was already discussed here in this thread and fixed
> once...

You can try the same solution again :)

source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex

> minimal file :
> http://dpaste.com/159433/
>
> log:
> http://dpaste.com/159432/

Notice that the files that are being sources are from 
/usr/share/texmf-dist and not from /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context

You can check that by running

which texexec

If you are using minimals, you should get something like 
/opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec
With texlive, you will get
/usr/bin/texexec

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Lubos Kolouch]

Aditya Mahajan, Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:29:58 -0500:

> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
> 
>> I can, however it was already discussed here in this thread and fixed
>> once...
> 
> You can try the same solution again :)
> 
> source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex
> 
>> minimal file :
>> http://dpaste.com/159433/
>>
>> log:
>> http://dpaste.com/159432/
> 
> Notice that the files that are being sources are from
> /usr/share/texmf-dist and not from /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context
> 
> You can check that by running
> 
> which texexec
> 
> If you are using minimals, you should get something like
> /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec With texlive, you will
> get
> /usr/bin/texexec
> 
> Aditya
> 
Hi Aditya,

Right - thank you.

Pardon my ignorance, does it mean, I have to run it after every update of 
this package? Should that not be part of the install process?

Lubos

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Re: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

> Pardon my ignorance, does it mean, I have to run it after every update of
> this package?

You need to run

   source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex

once on each terminal from which you want to run context. If you do not 
use texlive, then you can add this line to your .bashrc (or the rc file of 
whatever shell you use).

setuptex sets PATH so that the minimals binaries are used rather than 
texlive's; setting OSFONTDIR so that you can use system fonts; and setting 
TEXMFCACHE.

> Should that not be part of the install process?

If can be, but that will mean that context-minimals will conflict with 
texlive. With the current approach, you can use both texlive (which is 
needed for latex, texinfo, and plain tex) and context-minimals. All you 
need to do is run

   source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex

once for each terminal session.

Aditya
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