Re: transliteration russian

[Jano Kula <jano.kula@tiscali.cz>]

Hi!

On 10/30/2010 11:34 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:17:11AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 30-10-2010 12:05, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:25:20PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>> By far the easiest and most portable solution would be if you could
>>>> convince Taco to implement something like "latin a is equivalent to
>>>> cyrillic a as far as hyphenation is concerned" (which could also solve
>>>> many other problems that we have). Actually, you can already do that
>>>> by redefining \lccode of latin a to point to cyrillic a (and do that
>>>> for the whole alphabet), but then you need to make sure that you don't
>>>> use any commands for lowercasing/uppercasing words. If you need
>>>> details, I can help you out, but first exact transliteration rules are
>>>> needed.
>>>
>>> I was thinking, since using \lccode for hyphenation is really a wired
>>> choice (I'm sure don has a good reason back then, but such things are
>>> usually no longer relevant), and since it is used in a sort of
>>> controlled environment (playing with \lccode's for hyphenation is not
>>> ever one's toy), may be luatex can break the backward compatibility in
>>> the hyphenation area and have a dedicated new code, \hycode or
>>> something, only for hyphenation purposes (may be backward compatibility
>>> can be kept by using it in addition to \lccode, maybe).
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>
>> just any letter (catcode letter) would do and the rest is to be
>> controlled by the patterns
>
> The issue here is that we want to make some character equivalent to each
> other, e.g. ' and ’ which are needed for some languages, without the
> need to duplicate the patterns.

Before jumping too deep to the subject, consider if it really worth an 
effort. There is not much more then, titles written in the 
transliterated text. No continuous reading.

My experience says, whatever language is the original title, reader 
usually expects hyphenation similar to the language of the main text. 
Whenever I've used English patterns in English titles (even citations), 
they where changed by the Czech proofreader -- though they were 
perfectly correct in English -- to resemble Czech patterns. I'm not 
saying it is the right approach, but from the readers' and proofreaders' 
point of view if he reads in Czech and doesn't now English patterns or 
even English, patterns different from Czech are disturbing.

Jano

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