* for each script a different font @ 2010-12-06 22:39 Peter Schorsch 2010-12-07 13:44 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Peter Schorsch @ 2010-12-06 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hi all, is it possible to mix severel fonts (for each script one font)? Regarding to some fragments of the wiki I tried: \setupdirections[bidi=global] \definefontfeature[cyrl][script=cyrl] \definefontfeature[brai][script=brai] \definefontfeature[arab][script=arab] \starttypescript [serif] [vollkorn] \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vollkornregular] \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:doulossil][feature=cyrl] \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:scheherazade][feature=arab] \defomefpmtsynonym [Serif][name:sechspunktbraille][feature=brai] \stoptypescript \definetypeface[fliesstext][rm][serif][vollkorn] \setupbodyfont[fliesstext,rm,11pt] \starttext Regular Еупгдфк цшкв уы more test text a ُءشةحمث and continue latin script ⠇⠤⠧⠬⠀⠟⠢⠭. \stoptext But the last \definefontsynonym overrides the entire unicode space and not only the part regarding to the related script. Is the mechanism I tried in ConTeXt possible? ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: for each script a different font 2010-12-06 22:39 for each script a different font Peter Schorsch @ 2010-12-07 13:44 ` Khaled Hosny 2010-12-07 15:19 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2010-12-07 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:39:59PM +0100, Peter Schorsch wrote: > Hi all, > > is it possible to mix severel fonts (for each script one font)? Regarding to > some fragments of the wiki I tried: > > \setupdirections[bidi=global] > > \definefontfeature[cyrl][script=cyrl] > \definefontfeature[brai][script=brai] > \definefontfeature[arab][script=arab] > > \starttypescript [serif] [vollkorn] > \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vollkornregular] > \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:doulossil][feature=cyrl] > \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:scheherazade][feature=arab] > \defomefpmtsynonym [Serif][name:sechspunktbraille][feature=brai] > \stoptypescript > > > \definetypeface[fliesstext][rm][serif][vollkorn] > \setupbodyfont[fliesstext,rm,11pt] > > \starttext > > Regular Еупгдфк цшкв уы more test text a ُءشةحمث and continue latin script > ⠇⠤⠧⠬⠀⠟⠢⠭. > > \stoptext > > But the last \definefontsynonym overrides the entire unicode space and not > only the part regarding to the related script. > > Is the mechanism I tried in ConTeXt possible? There is the fallback feature: \definefontfallback[arabic][name:scheherazade][arabic][force=yes,features=arab] Then: \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vollkornregular][fallbacks=arrows] But I don't know how to use multiple fallbacks. The text below is a feature request for Hans (warning, a long, boring email) Font fallbacks is not really suitable for this kind of usage because it does not handle common characters (digits, punctuation, etc.) that are used in several scripts. Unicode provide script property for each character and a simple algorithm to handle characters with no explicit script property: http://unicode.org/reports/tr24/ * each character have a script property value, which is either: - explicit script value, in this case no special handling is needed - 'inherited': these character inherit the script property of the preceding character. Unicode suggests that all combining marks be treated as having 'inherited' property even if they have an explicit one, the idea is that a combining mark should always have the same script as its base character. - 'common': characters used in multiple scripts. In most cases this can be handled by assigning it the script of preceding character, with the exception of paired characters like () which should take the script value of outer text, and both characters in a pair should take the same value. - 'unknown': for unassigned character codes (like PUA). The value of using that over simple fallbacks (it need not to replace the existing fallback mechanism), is that one wants to apply the same font and font features for contiguous runs of text of certain script including things like numbers or punctuation, here is one (real) use case: This week I was typesetting a small Arabic book[1], I wanted to use 'anum' feature, but since I'm using the same font for Arabic and English that will convert all numbers globally which is not desired. Also I wanted to use different feature for Arabic and English texts (as you can see in that book, ligature and kerning not activated in English parts because I was using 'script=arab' for all the text). I would have defined a special English font and manually marked all English parts with it, but this has two main drawbacks: - Editing mixed Arabic and English is a real PITA because of the mixed directionality, adding command switches on top of that is adding salt to the wound. - The book was actually authored in OpenOffice and converted to ConTeXt in a semi-automated way, so searching for all English passages and marking them is not that simple. I'm also thinking in totally automated typesetting from XML and such, where it is not even possible to mark text runs in a clean way. [1] http://www.khaledhosny.org/files/tmp/arabic-foss-l10n-manual.pdf IMHO, such feature coupled with bidi support will make multi-script multi-directional typesetting first class citizens in ConTeXt :) Thanks for reading tell here :) Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: for each script a different font 2010-12-07 13:44 ` Khaled Hosny @ 2010-12-07 15:19 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2010-12-07 15:28 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2010-12-07 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > Then: > > \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vollkornregular][fallbacks=arrows] > > But I don't know how to use multiple fallbacks. You can define as many fallbacks as you wish. Here's a silly example: \definefontfallback [Foo] [name:texgyretermes-bold] [0x0031-0x0032] [force=yes,check=no] \definefontfallback [Foo] [name:texgyreheros-italic] [0x0033-0x0034] [force=yes,check=no] \definefontfallback [Foo] [name:texgyreadventor-bolditalic] [0x0035-0x0036] [force=yes,check=no] \definefontsynonym[SerifPlus][Serif][fallbacks=Foo] \definefont[MySerif][SerifPlus at 24pt] \starttext \MySerif 1234567890 \stoptext That should get you going. HTH Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: for each script a different font 2010-12-07 15:19 ` Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2010-12-07 15:28 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2010-12-07 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 04:19:45PM +0100, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > Then: > > > > \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vollkornregular][fallbacks=arrows] > > > > But I don't know how to use multiple fallbacks. > > You can define as many fallbacks as you wish. Here's a silly example: > > \definefontfallback [Foo] [name:texgyretermes-bold] [0x0031-0x0032] [force=yes,check=no] > \definefontfallback [Foo] [name:texgyreheros-italic] [0x0033-0x0034] [force=yes,check=no] > \definefontfallback [Foo] [name:texgyreadventor-bolditalic] [0x0035-0x0036] [force=yes,check=no] > > \definefontsynonym[SerifPlus][Serif][fallbacks=Foo] > > \definefont[MySerif][SerifPlus at 24pt] > > \starttext > > \MySerif 1234567890 > > \stoptext > > That should get you going. Thanks. I, naïvely, assumed I have to define several different fallbacks and pass that do \definefontsynonym. This will simplify my font setup a bit, but the issues in my other mail still exist. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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