From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/76472 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jano Kula Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note? Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20120523142304.57bb4afb@Zewz> <67022F10-8A19-4EF0-B6BC-E046817B7EF7@googlemail.com> <6492AF3A-E630-4FCD-95C5-0B30EAA5403B@web.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338215617 29922 80.91.229.3 (28 May 2012 14:33:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:33:37 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 28 16:33:35 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ10o-00009O-IV for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23E8101DD; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4FY2SF8NoeiC; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46011101DF; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77473101DF for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id EdzHf2uxO7hR for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A053101DD for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q4SEXTU6022109 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:29 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ10h-0008RE-AG for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:27 +0200 Original-Received: from 194.228.211.187 ([194.228.211.187]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:27 +0200 Original-Received: from jano.kula by 194.228.211.187 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.228.211.187 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101028 Lanikai/3.1.6 In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=80.91.229.3; country=NO; latitude=62.0000; longitude=10.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=62.0000,10.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0VHfqxtT8 - 8c730c8b2c59 - 20120528 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:76472 Archived-At: Hello Andy, On 05/27/2012 04:41 PM, Andy Thomas wrote: > Hello Jano, > > On May 26, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Jano Kula wrote: > >> Hello Andy, >> Side notes set ragged left (rigth justyfied) on left pages are quite difficult to read, I would make them ragged right (left justified) on all pages and. > > I guess you want to say [...] it would [not] break the overall design at all ;) I like the look of ragged outer when just looking at a double page from far. It does make reading more difficult. I still cannot decide. In the end legibility should be more important, so ragged right is better like you said. Sure, I wanted to say: "it would not break the overall design at all" :) >> Just wondering, why is Optima-Regular embeded so many times? > > We wanted to have a sans serif font for the viewgraphs that matches the Palatino (orig. 1948). So we went for Optima (1952-1955 and also from Hermann Zapf). Wikipedia says "Optima's capitals (like Palatino's) are directly derived from the classic Roman monumental capital model [...]". I think, it does look good together. We also wanted a TeX Gyre font as main font, so that it is available on every system. Of course a good choice, but I meant something different. When I have a look at the Properties of the document in the Adobe Reader or just list the fonts with "pdffonts" command on linux, then Optima-Regular is listed 141 times. Figure labels use sans serif, so I'm wondering why so many times the font is included. Jano ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________