From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40541 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bruce =?utf-8?b?RFwnQXJjdXM=?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Bibliographic Databases Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <28FFA564-77A6-41BE-8E15-F8345C904E76@csiro.au> <480856E0.8030803@elvenkind.com> <20080418151754.GN5346@hermes.commontology.de> <4808DE6C.2090700@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208703255 14632 80.91.229.12 (20 Apr 2008 14:54:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:54:15 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Apr 20 16:54:50 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jnaw5-0003ig-Pp for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:54:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6671FCC7; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:53:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11252-06-15; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:53:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777871FCA0; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:53:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A321FCA0 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:53:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13216-01-4 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:52:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA991FC54 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:52:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Jnau6-0004HH-AW for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:52:30 +0000 Original-Received: from cpe-24-210-249-184.woh.res.rr.com ([24.210.249.184]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:52:30 +0000 Original-Received: from bdarcus.lists by cpe-24-210-249-184.woh.res.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:52:30 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 24.210.249.184 (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080311 Firefox/2.0.0.13) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40541 Archived-At: Taco Hoekwater elvenkind.com> writes: [snip] > But the few times I've had to work with TEI stuff I found that you > can easily get much more than you bargained for. Bibliographic data > is not easy on its own, and a format that allows (almost promotes) > extra tags to be embedded also is not helping at all. ... MODS has some of these issues too. Consider these are both valid: Jane Doe creator Jane Doe creator So in many formats there's a balance between flexibility and brevity/predictability. FWIW, I've just settled on RDF for my own data needs between it provides the formal rigor of relational databases (that XML per se lacks), but much more flexibility. But as I said in the previous note, I don't think the data format has to matter that much to formatting software (at its core that is). Bruce ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________