Font and Typescript Questions

Font and Typescript Questions

[curiouslearn]

Can someone please help me with the following questions so that I can use some
of the typescripts that Wolfgang and some others have so kindly made available.

I will use font Bera as an example, since I would like to use it.

I have a Mac OS X Version 10.5.6

(1) How do I know if I have font Bera? As in, where on my computer do I look to
see if I have font Bera installed?

(2) If I do not have the font, how do I install Bera? I see that there are files
on ctan. Where should I save this?

(3) Once I have installed the font and I have downloaded Wolfgang's
type-bera.tex file, where do I save this file? Can I save it where I save the
third-party modules. Once I save it, do I run the usual texhash, followed by
luatools --generate followed by context --make

(4) Once I have accomplished the top three steps, how do I use it in a document?
Do I just type 

\usetypescript[bera]
\switchtobodyfont[bera,12pt]

OR,
 
do I also have to type \usemodule[type-bera]

I would really appreciate any help.

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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.04.2009 um 00:38 schrieb curiouslearn:

> Can someone please help me with the following questions so that I  
> can use some
> of the typescripts that Wolfgang and some others have so kindly made  
> available.
>
> I will use font Bera as an example, since I would like to use it.
>
> I have a Mac OS X Version 10.5.6
>
> (1) How do I know if I have font Bera? As in, where on my computer  
> do I look to
> see if I have font Bera installed?

All my typescripts work with XeTeX/LuaTeX only, if you want to use  
pdfTeX write
your own typescripts.

You can show a list of all available fonts for LuaTeX with 'mtxrun -- 
script fonts --list'
and for XeTeX with 'fc-list' on the terminal.

Bera is a Bitsream Vera modification and I suggest to use DejaVu  
instead, you can
find a link to the font in the file.

> (2) If I do not have the font, how do I install Bera? I see that  
> there are files
> on ctan. Where should I save this?

The easiest way is to install the font as normal system fonts.

> (3) Once I have installed the font and I have downloaded Wolfgang's
> type-bera.tex file, where do I save this file? Can I save it where I  
> save the
> third-party modules. Once I save it, do I run the usual texhash,  
> followed by
> luatools --generate followed by context --make

Save the file in your local TeX tree, I have them under 'texmf-local/ 
tex/context/third/typescrips/'.

Before you could use them TeX has to know about the file, to do this  
call
'mktexlsr' for XeTeX and 'luatools --generate' or 'context --generate'  
for LuaTeX.

'context --make' is only used to create a new format file for ConTeXt  
but you
don't need this for third party files which are loaded at runtime.

> (4) Once I have accomplished the top three steps, how do I use it in  
> a document?
> Do I just type
>
> \usetypescript[bera]
> \switchtobodyfont[bera,12pt]

\usetypescriptfile[type-...] % load the typescript file

\usetypescript[...] % load the typescript
\setupbodyfont[...]

Wolfgang

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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[Mohamed Bana]

curiouslearn wrote:
> Can someone please help me with the following questions so that I can use some
> of the typescripts that Wolfgang and some others have so kindly made available.
>
> I will use font Bera as an example, since I would like to use it.
>
> I have a Mac OS X Version 10.5.6
>
> (1) How do I know if I have font Bera? As in, where on my computer do I look to
> see if I have font Bera installed?
>   
if you run the minimals, and probably also linux, this should tell you 
if the font has been cached.  i'm not sure if the pattern is case sensitive.

  $ mtxrun --script font --list 
--pattern=*bera*                                 

> (2) If I do not have the font, how do I install Bera? I see that there are files
> on ctan. Where should I save this?
>   
is it an OpenType font?  on linux i just put it into my ~/.fonts/ dir.
> (3) Once I have installed the font and I have downloaded Wolfgang's
> type-bera.tex file, where do I save this file? Can I save it where I save the
> third-party modules. Once I save it, do I run the usual texhash, followed by
> luatools --generate followed by context --make
>   
just put it in current dir and see if it works, you won't need to run 
those commands (i think).
> (4) Once I have accomplished the top three steps, how do I use it in a document?
> Do I just type 
>
> \usetypescript[bera]
> \switchtobodyfont[bera,12pt]
>
> OR,
>  
> do I also have to type \usemodule[type-bera]
>
> I would really appreciate any help.
>
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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[curiouslearn]

Wolfgang and Mohamed, thanks very much to both of you.

I downloaded the deja vu font and installed it as I would install any other font
on my Mac (using "Add fonts" feature in the font book). I see it listed now in
the font book and can use it in word. However, it does not show up when I type 

mtxrun --script fonts --list 

in the terminal. I am not interested in using Xetex. I am using MKIV, which is I
suppose Luatex and hence did not run mktexlsr. However, after I installed the
font and saved the type-dejavu.tex file in the appropriate place, I did run
luatools --generate. 

Do I have to do something so that it shows up in the list that I get by entering 

mtxrun --script fonts --list 

at the terminal?

Thanks in advance for your help.





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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[curiouslearn]

Just wanted to say that even if Deja Vu does not show up with

mtxrun --script fonts --list 

it does work!! I am not sure why.

Wolfgang thanks so much for the typescript. 



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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, curiouslearn wrote:

>
> Just wanted to say that even if Deja Vu does not show up with
>
> mtxrun --script fonts --list
>
> it does work!! I am not sure why.

Try

mtxrun --script fonts --reload

Aditya
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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[curiouslearn]

> > it does work!! I am not sure why.
> 
> Try
> 
> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
> 
> Aditya

Thanks Aditya. That worked. Now it shows with 

mtxrun --script fonts --list.

Its a beautiful font. I was also meaning to ask you, which font you used in your
simpleslides documentation? Is It is a very beautiful document. 




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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, curiouslearn wrote:

>
>>> it does work!! I am not sure why.
>>
>> Try
>>
>> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
>>
>> Aditya
>
> Thanks Aditya. That worked. Now it shows with
>
> mtxrun --script fonts --list.
>
> Its a beautiful font. I was also meaning to ask you, which font you used in your
> simpleslides documentation? Is It is a very beautiful document.

DejaVu :-) They typescripts were modified from Wolfgang's typescripts.

Aditya
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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.04.2009 um 03:17 schrieb curiouslearn:

>
> Just wanted to say that even if Deja Vu does not show up with
>
> mtxrun --script fonts --list
>
> it does work!! I am not sure why.

It works because context checks all directories if you use a font
which is not font in his internal list.

Wolfgang

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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[curiouslearn]

Aditya Mahajan <adityam <at> umich.edu> writes:

> 
> DejaVu  They typescripts were modified from Wolfgang's typescripts.
> 
> Aditya


Do you use a different font for Math in your typescript. Or, have not bothered
with the math font because there is no math in the manual. I printed some stuff
with Wolfgang's script and find that computer modern does not seem to go as well
with dejavu. Then I replaced the line

\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [mm] [math]  [modern]         [default]

with

\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [mm] [math]  [palatino]         [default]

knowing that palatino has math support. The math with this change to palatino
seems to go better with dejavu text for the simple math that I had (no
complicated symbols). Can someone please tell me if this is the only change I
need to make to Wolfgang's script, if I want to use palatino for math (with all
the symbols and such) in dejavu.

Thanks.

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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.04.2009 um 20:40 schrieb curiouslearn:

> Can someone please tell me if this is the only change I
> need to make to Wolfgang's script, if I want to use palatino for  
> math (with all
> the symbols and such) in dejavu.

Yes, that's all you have to do. I can change this in the file but
can you show me a example with the different combinations before
I'll do this.

Wolfgang

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Re: Font and Typescript Questions

[Hans Hagen]

curiouslearn wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan <adityam <at> umich.edu> writes:
> 
>> DejaVu  They typescripts were modified from Wolfgang's typescripts.
>>
>> Aditya
> 
> 
> Do you use a different font for Math in your typescript. Or, have not bothered
> with the math font because there is no math in the manual. I printed some stuff
> with Wolfgang's script and find that computer modern does not seem to go as well
> with dejavu. Then I replaced the line
> 
> \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [mm] [math]  [modern]         [default]
> 
> with
> 
> \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [mm] [math]  [palatino]         [default]
> 
> knowing that palatino has math support. The math with this change to palatino
> seems to go better with dejavu text for the simple math that I had (no
> complicated symbols). Can someone please tell me if this is the only change I
> need to make to Wolfgang's script, if I want to use palatino for math (with all
> the symbols and such) in dejavu.

maybe add [rscale=0.8] or whatever looks best

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Font and Typescript problems

[Alan BRASLAU]

I am perhaps using font typescripts incorrectly. Nevertheless, the recent 
minimals from the garden appears to have introduced a bug handling rscale.

Thanks,

Alan

Minimal example:

\definetypeface [postscript] [rm] [serif] [times]     [default]
\definetypeface [postscript] [ss] [sans]  [helvetica] [default] [rscale=.9]
\definetypeface [postscript] [tt] [mono]  [courier]   [default] [rscale=1.1]
\switchtotypeface [postscript] [12pt]
\setupbodyfont [sans,12pt]

\starttext
text
\stoptext


! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again>
                   .
\relativefontsize ->.
                     9
\dodefinebodyfontnopxx ...umber \relativefontsize
                                                  }{#2}{#2#1#3#4#5}
{\normalu...
\next6 #1,->\dodododefinebodyfont {ss}{4pt}{#1}
                                               \doprocesscommaitem
<argument> \relax tf=Sans sa 1,
                                bf=SansBold sa 1, it=SansItalic sa 1, 
sl=San...
\doprocesscommalist ...aitem \gobbleoneargument #1
                                                  ,]\relax \global \advance 
...
...
l.2 ...] [sans]  [helvetica] [default] [rscale=.9]

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Re: Font and Typescript problems

[Hans Hagen]

Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> I am perhaps using font typescripts incorrectly. Nevertheless, the recent 
> minimals from the garden appears to have introduced a bug handling rscale.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Minimal example:
> 
> \definetypeface [postscript] [rm] [serif] [times]     [default]
> \definetypeface [postscript] [ss] [sans]  [helvetica] [default] [rscale=.9]
> \definetypeface [postscript] [tt] [mono]  [courier]   [default] [rscale=1.1]
> \switchtotypeface [postscript] [12pt]
> \setupbodyfont [sans,12pt]
> 
> \starttext
> text
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
> <to be read again>
>                    .
> \relativefontsize ->.
>                      9

does 0.9 work?

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Re: Font and Typescript problems

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.05.2009 um 10:51 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>> I am perhaps using font typescripts incorrectly. Nevertheless, the  
>> recent minimals from the garden appears to have introduced a bug  
>> handling rscale.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>> Minimal example:
>> \definetypeface [postscript] [rm] [serif] [times]     [default]
>> \definetypeface [postscript] [ss] [sans]  [helvetica] [default]  
>> [rscale=.9]
>> \definetypeface [postscript] [tt] [mono]  [courier]   [default]  
>> [rscale=1.1]
>> \switchtotypeface [postscript] [12pt]
>> \setupbodyfont [sans,12pt]
>> \starttext
>> text
>> \stoptext
>> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
>> <to be read again>
>>                   .
>> \relativefontsize ->.
>>                     9
>
> does 0.9 work?

It works but can you change this in type-one.tex and type-otf.tex for  
the postscript
typescript and in type-cow.tex (all use rscale=.xx)

Wolfgang

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Re: Font and Typescript problems

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 04.05.2009 um 10:51 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> 
>> Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>>> I am perhaps using font typescripts incorrectly. Nevertheless, the 
>>> recent minimals from the garden appears to have introduced a bug 
>>> handling rscale.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan
>>> Minimal example:
>>> \definetypeface [postscript] [rm] [serif] [times]     [default]
>>> \definetypeface [postscript] [ss] [sans]  [helvetica] [default] 
>>> [rscale=.9]
>>> \definetypeface [postscript] [tt] [mono]  [courier]   [default] 
>>> [rscale=1.1]
>>> \switchtotypeface [postscript] [12pt]
>>> \setupbodyfont [sans,12pt]
>>> \starttext
>>> text
>>> \stoptext
>>> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
>>> <to be read again>
>>>                   .
>>> \relativefontsize ->.
>>>                     9
>>
>> does 0.9 work?
> 
> It works but can you change this in type-one.tex and type-otf.tex for 
> the postscript
> typescript and in type-cow.tex (all use rscale=.xx)

sure. (btw, it'd due to the fact that lua does not like var = .123)

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Re: Font and Typescript problems

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Monday 04 May 2009 10:51:39 Hans Hagen wrote:
> does 0.9 work?

Yes, "0.9" in
\definetypeface [postscript] [ss] [sans]  [helvetica] [default] [rscale=0.9]
works... Thanks!

Nevertheless, 
\usetypescript[postscript]
and other macros are currently broken.

Alan

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Re: Font and Typescript problems

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.05.2009 um 11:10 schrieb Hans Hagen:

>>> does 0.9 work?
>> It works but can you change this in type-one.tex and type-otf.tex  
>> for the postscript
>> typescript and in type-cow.tex (all use rscale=.xx)
>
> sure. (btw, it'd due to the fact that lua does not like var = .123)

Not in my context version, the problem here is the \number in front of  
\relativefontsize
(font-ini.mkiv) which is not there in the mkii code.

Wolfgang

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