* TextMate bundle @ 2007-03-27 11:28 Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-27 13:30 ` Steffen Wolfrum ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-27 11:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hi (esp. Willi), I've uploaded the version 0.2 of my TextMate bundle. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Bundle_for_TextMate and http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/ Direct download: http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/context-tmbundle.dmg Feedback welcome! Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-27 11:28 TextMate bundle Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-27 13:30 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2007-03-27 14:26 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-27 15:54 ` Grid-keeping table Johannes Kuester ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-03-27 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Patrick, very nice, thank you! Just some questions that came to my head: 1) The snipped feature uses the tab key for triggering *further* information, right? (If I remember correctly) I knew a similar feature (was it in AlphaX/Tk?) where the tab helped me to *complete* the command. For example: \cha + tab gave \chapter or when not clear like: \sub + tab gave a range with all commands starting with \sub... to choose. In textmate triggering the snipped with tab just works when typed the entire \chapter, right? There is no-one helping me typing when I get lazy? 2) You assigned F9 to texexec and so on. When, for some rare reason, I need to change the texexec a bit (with additional options or such), where to do so? 3) Probably a similar (stupid) question: You wrote "the variable PDF_VIEWER, the default is 'Preview'. You can try anything that you can use as an argument for 'open'..." Well, where do I find this in order to have a try? Steffen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-27 13:30 ` Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-03-27 14:26 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-27 14:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-27 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hello Steffen, > 1) The snipped feature uses the tab key for triggering *further* > information, right? right. > > (If I remember correctly) I knew a similar feature (was it in AlphaX/Tk?) where the tab helped me to *complete* the command. > For example: \cha + tab gave \chapter > or when not clear like: \sub + tab gave a range with all commands > starting with \sub... to choose. Enter \sub and press the escape key (several times). Then you can use the tab key for further information. > In textmate triggering the snipped with tab just works when typed > the entire \chapter, right? right. > There is no-one helping me typing when I get lazy? If you are too lazy to hit the escape key, then yes :) > 2) You assigned F9 to texexec and so on. (btw: I'll probably change that to cmd-R for the sake of compatibility to existing textmate standards) > When, for some rare reason, I need to change the texexec a bit (with > additional options or such), where to do so? find the 'texexec' command in the bundle editor: Bundles -> Bundle-Editor -> Edit Commands. (In the ConTeXt bundle of course.) If you think that your changes are useful for other users, please share them! The internals will change in the future. > 3) Probably a similar (stupid) question: > You wrote "the variable PDF_VIEWER, the default is 'Preview'. You can try anything that you can use as an argument for 'open'..." > Well, where do I find this in order to have a try? See http://macromates.com/textmate/manual/environment_variables 9.4 (at the very end). Does this information already help you? Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-27 14:26 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-27 14:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2007-03-27 17:22 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-03-27 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Patrick, On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:26:10 +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > Enter \sub and press the escape key (several times). Then you can use > the tab key for further information. Ahh! The escape-key!! On my machine (up to now) this was already assigned to "enter snippet" for Butler (by petermaurer.de). BTW: Highly recommendable this little Mac-application! >> 2) You assigned F9 to texexec and so on. > > (btw: I'll probably change that to cmd-R for the sake of compatibility > to existing textmate standards) > >> When, for some rare reason, I need to change the texexec a bit (with >> additional options or such), where to do so? > > find the 'texexec' command in the bundle editor: Bundles -> > Bundle-Editor -> Edit Commands. (In the ConTeXt bundle of course.) > > If you think that your changes are useful for other users, please > share them! > > The internals will change in the future. OK. >> 3) Probably a similar (stupid) question: >> You wrote "the variable PDF_VIEWER, the default is 'Preview'. You >> can try anything that you can use as an argument for 'open'..." >> Well, where do I find this in order to have a try? > > See http://macromates.com/textmate/manual/environment_variables 9.4 > (at the very end). Does this information already help you? Well, does it mean that I have to define a project-variable (tmproj) for each project in order to overwrite the default? Inside of ConTeXt.tmbundle I couldn't find a *.tmproj file ... Steffen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-27 14:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-03-27 17:22 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-28 22:52 ` David Wooten 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-27 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hi Steffen, > Ahh! The escape-key!! > On my machine (up to now) this was already assigned to "enter > snippet" for Butler (by petermaurer.de). You can easily change the key to something else in the bundle editor. >>> You wrote "the variable PDF_VIEWER, the default is 'Preview'. You >>> can try anything that you can use as an argument for 'open'..." >>> Well, where do I find this in order to have a try? >> >> See http://macromates.com/textmate/manual/environment_variables 9.4 >> (at the very end). Does this information already help you? > > > Well, does it mean that I have to define a project-variable (tmproj) for each project in order to overwrite the default? > Inside of ConTeXt.tmbundle I couldn't find a *.tmproj file ... the mentioning of 'tmproj' is a bit confusing, just ignore it. You have to set this variable from within TextMate. tmproj is just the file extension of the project file, there is nothing useful to edit there. When you create a project 'abc', it will get saved on the drive as 'abc.tmproj'. It has nothing to do with the bundles. There are two different places to set this variable: 1) (global) in textmate's preferences/advanced/shell variables and 2) (each project) in a project's preference window. This works only in a project and you have to follow the instructions on the given webpage: "The way to do this is currently a little secret but if you deselect everything in the project drawer, then click the info (circled I) button, a panel will appear where you can set variables." For both ways, just click on the plus sign in the lower left corner of the window and enter for example Variable Value ------------------------- PDF_VIEWER texniscope ------------------------- HTH Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-27 17:22 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-28 22:52 ` David Wooten 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: David Wooten @ 2007-03-28 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users I've just been experimenting with the new bundle. I really appreciate having it, and so far it is working like a charm. Thanks, Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Grid-keeping table 2007-03-27 11:28 TextMate bundle Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-27 13:30 ` Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-03-27 15:54 ` Johannes Kuester 2007-03-27 16:46 ` luigi scarso ` (2 more replies) 2007-03-27 19:18 ` TextMate bundle Willi Egger 2007-03-30 16:09 ` Patrick Gundlach 3 siblings, 3 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-27 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Dear all, I'm trying to typeset a rather simple list or table where each line should keep the overall grid of my page design. For this I tried "tabulate", "table", and "TABLE", but all failed. What I need is the following: 4 columns, each with a fixed width. One of the columns may contain a paragraph (i.e. more than one line), like: Axxx yyyy first entry with zzz more text Bxxx yyyy next entry zzz The line starting with "B" does not keep the grid -- at least in most cases; I couldn't trace down when and why this fails. (The specific environment is not important (whether tabulate, table, TABLE, or some other solution), as all entries are supplied by a macro which I could adapt easily). Johannes -- Johannes Kuester typoma mailto:jk@typoma.com http://www.typoma.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-27 15:54 ` Grid-keeping table Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-27 16:46 ` luigi scarso 2007-03-27 18:38 ` Peter Rolf 2007-03-30 2:51 ` luigi scarso 2 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2007-03-27 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 3/27/07, Johannes Kuester <jk@typoma.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm trying to typeset a rather simple list or table where each line > should keep the overall grid of my page design. > For this I tried "tabulate", "table", and "TABLE", but all failed. > > What I need is the following: > 4 columns, each with a fixed width. > One of the columns may contain a paragraph (i.e. more than one line), like: > > Axxx yyyy first entry with zzz > more text > Bxxx yyyy next entry zzz > > The line starting with "B" does not keep the grid -- at least in most > cases; I couldn't trace down when and why this fails. > > (The specific environment is not important (whether tabulate, table, > TABLE, or some other solution), as all entries are supplied by a macro > which I could adapt easily). If I understand well (but a your example should be better) you can try to put something like this %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \CellWidth=0.2\textwidth %% or whatever is good \CellHeightOne=3em %% or whatever is good \CellHeightTwo=2\CellHeightOne \CellHeightThree=3\CellHeightOne \CellHeightFour=4\CellHeightOne %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \setbox100=\vbox{\hsize=\CellWidth% %put your material here} Now \box100 has the natural height of you material \ifdim\ht100<\CellHeightOne \setbox100=\vbox to \CellHeightOne{\hsize=\CellWidth% %put your material here}\else \ifdim\ht100<\CellHeightTwo \setbox100=\vbox to \CellHeightTwo{\hsize=\CellWidth% %put your material here}\else \ifdim\ht100<\CellHeightThree \setbox100=\vbox to \CellHeightThree{\hsize=\CellWidth% %put your material here}\else \ifdim\ht100<\CellHeightFour \setbox100=\vbox to \CellHeightFour{\hsize=\CellWidth% %put your material here}\fi\fi\fi\fi %%% %%Now use your macro \SetCellContent to set cell content with \box100 as argument \setCellContent{\box100} luigi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-27 15:54 ` Grid-keeping table Johannes Kuester 2007-03-27 16:46 ` luigi scarso @ 2007-03-27 18:38 ` Peter Rolf 2007-03-28 6:57 ` luigi scarso 2007-03-30 2:51 ` luigi scarso 2 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2007-03-27 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1230 bytes --] Hi Johannes, Johannes Kuester wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm trying to typeset a rather simple list or table where each line > should keep the overall grid of my page design. > For this I tried "tabulate", "table", and "TABLE", but all failed. > One way to reach this, is to set the row height of every single table line to the default interline space of ConTeXt. The table rows now sync with the grid (same height), but behind the table you are again out of sync. You can use \syncronizegrid to fix this. HTH, Peter P.S. Can anyone with grid experience add some stuff to the Wiki? I had to grep "the base" to find a grid syncronizing macro. > What I need is the following: > 4 columns, each with a fixed width. > One of the columns may contain a paragraph (i.e. more than one line), like: > > Axxx yyyy first entry with zzz > more text > Bxxx yyyy next entry zzz > > The line starting with "B" does not keep the grid -- at least in most > cases; I couldn't trace down when and why this fails. > > (The specific environment is not important (whether tabulate, table, > TABLE, or some other solution), as all entries are supplied by a macro > which I could adapt easily). > > > Johannes > [-- Attachment #2: grid.tex --] [-- Type: text/plain, Size: 600 bytes --] \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \showstruts \starttext \input tufte \setupTABLE[r][each][height=\the\baselineskip] % default linespacing in ConTeXt \setupTABLE[c][1,2,4][width=.2\textwidth] \setupTABLE[c][3][width=.4\textwidth] \setupTABLE[frame=on] \blank \bTABLE \bTR \bTD Axxx \eTD \bTD yyyy \eTD \bTD [row=2] first entry with\\ more text \eTD \bTD zzz \eTD \eTR % \bTR \bTD \eTD \bTD \eTD % \bTD \eTD % [row=2] \bTD \eTD \eTR % \bTR \bTD Bxxx \eTD \bTD yyyy \eTD \bTD next entry \eTD \bTD zzz \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \synchronizegrid \blank \input tufte \stoptext [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 139 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-27 18:38 ` Peter Rolf @ 2007-03-28 6:57 ` luigi scarso 2007-03-28 9:51 ` Johannes Kuester 2007-03-28 9:56 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2007-03-28 6:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > One way to reach this, is to set the row height of every single table > line to the default interline space of ConTeXt. > The table rows now sync with the grid (same height), but behind the > table you are again out of sync. You can use \syncronizegrid to fix this. hmm, some problems (see %Pj ) %%%%% \setuplayout[grid=yes] %P1 %% all docs is in grid mode, %%%%% but the request was only for tables \showgrid \showstruts \starttext \input tufte \setupTABLE[r][each][height=\the\baselineskip] % default linespacing in ConTeXt \setupTABLE[c][1,2,4][width=.2\textwidth] \setupTABLE[c][3][width=.4\textwidth] \setupTABLE[frame=on] \blank \bTABLE \bTR \bTD Axxx \eTD \bTD yyyy \eTD \bTD [row=2] first entry with\\ more text \eTD %P2 %%% you must enter row=2manually %%%%% maybe can be calculate by a macro \bTD zzz \eTD \eTR % \bTR \bTD \eTD \bTD \eTD % \bTD \eTD % [row=2] \bTD \eTD \eTR % \bTR \bTD Bxxx \eTD \bTD yyyy \eTD \bTD next entry \eTD \bTD zzz \ruledvbox to 3cm{ jkjfd kjhsdkfjhsd }\eTD %P3 %% ugly cell -- some try-and-errors to find k such as row=k %%%%% is good \eTR \eTABLE \synchronizegrid \blank \input tufte \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% One strategy could be consider both the ways showed. Also I found an interestring document at http://www.datapat.de/101.pdf luigi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-28 6:57 ` luigi scarso @ 2007-03-28 9:51 ` Johannes Kuester 2007-03-28 10:32 ` luigi scarso 2007-03-28 11:53 ` Peter Rolf 2007-03-28 9:56 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-28 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Dear Luigi, dear Rolf, thank you for your help. Below is a (hopefully) better example of what I try to do and where it fails. The last line in tabulate (starting with "22C6") loses the grid, and I can't see why. Unfortunately the solutions you suggested did not work for me. I do want to avoid to specify cell heights, I just want to arrange paragraph boxes, all (horizontally) top-aligned with each entry in my table. TABLE with \synchronizegrid would do the trick (a non-framed table would have grid-keeping rows). Still it seems to fail in my specific setting (two-column, I could not trace down what the problem really is). And the need to specify the number of rows is a problem in my case, as I would need to add a parameter to my macro etc. Johannes %%%%%%%%%% \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \showstruts \starttext \input tufte \starttabulate[|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]% \NC 002B \NC $+$ \NC plus; Addition \NC \NR \NC 00D7 \NC $\times$ \NC kartesisches Produkt (von Mengen);\hfill\break Kreuzprodukt (Vektorprodukt);\hfill\break mal; Produkt (bei Zahlwerten) \NC \NR \NC 2217 \NC $*$ \NC (Stern, Asterisk); Konvolution; Faltung; Produkt \NC \NR \NC 22C6 \NC $\star$ \NC (Stern); Zeichen fuer spezielle Produkte \NC \NR \stoptabulate \blank \input tufte \stoptext %%%%%%%%%% -- Johannes Kuester typoma mailto:jk@typoma.com http://www.typoma.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-28 9:51 ` Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-28 10:32 ` luigi scarso 2007-03-28 11:53 ` Peter Rolf 1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2007-03-28 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 3/28/07, Johannes Kuester <jk@typoma.com> wrote: > Dear Luigi, dear Rolf, > > thank you for your help. > > Below is a (hopefully) better example of what I try to do and where it > fails. ok, i will give it a try this night. luigi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-28 9:51 ` Johannes Kuester 2007-03-28 10:32 ` luigi scarso @ 2007-03-28 11:53 ` Peter Rolf 2007-03-28 14:16 ` Johannes Kuester 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2007-03-28 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Johannes, Johannes Kuester wrote: > Dear Luigi, dear Rolf, > > thank you for your help. > > Below is a (hopefully) better example of what I try to do and where it > fails. > > The last line in tabulate (starting with "22C6") loses the grid, and I > can't see why. > as I see it, the problem is caused by the table cells, that use more than one row. In the following row the outer struts are shifted down (inner ones are normal, as they sync with the last rows struts), so that the total height of the row is finally greater than \strutheight. In your example are two places, where this occurs: The two inner struts in front of '(Stern, Asterisk);..' are not on the same horizontal line as the outer strut on the right side. Same for the both outer struts (left,right) of the '22C6' line and the inner one in front of '(Stern); Zeichen für...'. But I donno how to fix this. Best, Peter > Unfortunately the solutions you suggested did not work for me. > I do want to avoid to specify cell heights, I just want to arrange > paragraph boxes, all (horizontally) top-aligned with each entry in my table. > > TABLE with \synchronizegrid would do the trick (a non-framed table would > have grid-keeping rows). Still it seems to fail in my specific setting > (two-column, I could not trace down what the problem really is). > And the need to specify the number of rows is a problem in my case, as I > would need to add a parameter to my macro etc. > > Johannes > > > %%%%%%%%%% > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > > \showgrid > \showstruts > > \starttext > > \input tufte > > \starttabulate[|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]% > \NC 002B > \NC $+$ > \NC plus; Addition > \NC > \NR > \NC 00D7 > \NC $\times$ > \NC kartesisches Produkt (von Mengen);\hfill\break > Kreuzprodukt (Vektorprodukt);\hfill\break > mal; Produkt (bei Zahlwerten) > \NC > \NR > \NC 2217 > \NC $*$ > \NC (Stern, Asterisk); Konvolution; Faltung; Produkt > \NC > \NR > \NC 22C6 > \NC $\star$ > \NC (Stern); Zeichen fuer spezielle Produkte > \NC > \NR > \stoptabulate > > \blank > > \input tufte > > \stoptext > > %%%%%%%%%% > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-28 11:53 ` Peter Rolf @ 2007-03-28 14:16 ` Johannes Kuester 2007-03-28 14:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-28 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users It seems linetable would do just what I need (at least I get rid of the strut / unwanted vertical spacing problem, so I do get a grid-keeping table), but: Is there a way to use linetable in two-column mode? (i.e. the consecutive lines of my table should be set just like normal text would in two-column mode). Currently linetable just streches over the whole textwidth, as it adds white space between columns. Johannes %%%%%%%%%% In my previous example below, using \setuplinetable[n=4] \setuplinetable[c][1] [width=6mm] \setuplinetable[c][2] [width=5mm] \setuplinetable[c][3] [width=51mm] \setuplinetable[c][4] [width=1mm] and then startlinetable / stoplinetable instead of start/stoptabulate works fine for the vertical spacing problem. >> %%%%%%%%%% >> >> \setuplayout[grid=yes] >> >> \showgrid >> \showstruts >> >> \starttext >> >> \input tufte >> >> \starttabulate[|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]% >> \NC 002B >> \NC $+$ >> \NC plus; Addition >> \NC >> \NR >> \NC 00D7 >> \NC $\times$ >> \NC kartesisches Produkt (von Mengen);\hfill\break >> Kreuzprodukt (Vektorprodukt);\hfill\break >> mal; Produkt (bei Zahlwerten) >> \NC >> \NR >> \NC 2217 >> \NC $*$ >> \NC (Stern, Asterisk); Konvolution; Faltung; Produkt >> \NC >> \NR >> \NC 22C6 >> \NC $\star$ >> \NC (Stern); Zeichen fuer spezielle Produkte >> \NC >> \NR >> \stoptabulate >> >> \blank >> >> \input tufte >> >> \stoptext >> >> %%%%%%%%%% -- Johannes Kuester typoma mailto:jk@typoma.com http://www.typoma.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-28 14:16 ` Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-28 14:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2007-03-28 15:46 ` Johannes Kuester 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-03-28 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2152 bytes --] 2007/3/28, Johannes Kuester <jk@typoma.com>: > > It seems linetable would do just what I need (at least I get rid of the > strut / unwanted vertical spacing problem, so I do get a grid-keeping > table), but: > > Is there a way to use linetable in two-column mode? > (i.e. the consecutive lines of my table should be set just like normal > text would in two-column mode). > > Currently linetable just streches over the whole textwidth, as it adds > white space between columns. > > Johannes > > > %%%%%%%%%% > > In my previous example below, using > > \setuplinetable[n=4] > > \setuplinetable[c][1] [width=6mm] > \setuplinetable[c][2] [width=5mm] > \setuplinetable[c][3] [width=51mm] > \setuplinetable[c][4] [width=1mm] > > and then startlinetable / stoplinetable instead of start/stoptabulate > works fine for the vertical spacing problem. > > >> %%%%%%%%%% > >> > >> \setuplayout[grid=yes] > >> > >> \showgrid > >> \showstruts > >> > >> \starttext > >> > >> \input tufte > >> > >> > \starttabulate[|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.1\textwidth)|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]% > >> \NC 002B > >> \NC $+$ > >> \NC plus; Addition > >> \NC > >> \NR > >> \NC 00D7 > >> \NC $\times$ > >> \NC kartesisches Produkt (von Mengen);\hfill\break > >> Kreuzprodukt (Vektorprodukt);\hfill\break > >> mal; Produkt (bei Zahlwerten) > >> \NC > >> \NR > >> \NC 2217 > >> \NC $*$ > >> \NC (Stern, Asterisk); Konvolution; Faltung; Produkt > >> \NC > >> \NR > >> \NC 22C6 > >> \NC $\star$ > >> \NC (Stern); Zeichen fuer spezielle Produkte > >> \NC > >> \NR > >> \stoptabulate > >> > >> \blank > >> > >> \input tufte > >> > >> \stoptext > >> > >> %%%%%%%%%% > > -- > Johannes Kuester > typoma Hi Johannes, a short example to play for you. The important things are the stretch and the lines key in \setuplinetable. You should also look at the end of core-ltb, it contains a few interresting examples. \setuplinetable[stretch=yes,lines=fit] \starttext \startcolumns \startlinetable \dorecurse{80}{\NC Text \NC Text \NC\NR} \stoplinetable \stopcolumns \stoptext Wolfgang [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3352 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 139 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-28 14:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-03-28 15:46 ` Johannes Kuester 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-28 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > 2007/3/28, Johannes Kuester <jk@typoma.com <mailto:jk@typoma.com>>: > > It seems linetable would do just what I need (at least I get rid of the > strut / unwanted vertical spacing problem, so I do get a grid-keeping > table), but: > > Is there a way to use linetable in two-column mode? > (i.e. the consecutive lines of my table should be set just like normal > text would in two-column mode). > > Hi Johannes, > > a short example to play for you. The important things are the stretch and > the lines key in \setuplinetable. You should also look at the end of > core-ltb, > it contains a few interresting examples. > > \setuplinetable[stretch=yes,lines=fit] > > \starttext > > \startcolumns > > \startlinetable > \dorecurse{80}{\NC Text \NC Text \NC\NR} > \stoplinetable > > \stopcolumns > > \stoptext > > Wolfgang > Hi Wolfgang, I already looked at the examples in core-ltb, and on the wiki. Still linetable does not work in my specific case (with my layout options etc.), but I can't trace down why it does not. But linetable seems to have problems in general, when used in columns. When I try your example with more input lines (thus running over more than one page), say %%%%%%%%%% \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \setuplinetable[stretch=yes,lines=fit] \starttext \startcolumns \startlinetable \dorecurse{180}{\NC Text \NC Text \NC\NR} \stoplinetable \stopcolumns \stoptext %%%%%%%%%% I get a correct left column (on page 1 and 2), but the right column is three lines too long. Setting the number of lines: \setuplinetable[lines=41] would help for one-line cell entries (then each column has the correct number of lines on the page), but in my case with multi-line entries, each such entry is counted as one line, thus resulting in a too long column. So, linetable does not do the job. Back to tabulate, I presume, but tabulate has the strut problem. Johannes -- Johannes Kuester typoma mailto:jk@typoma.com http://www.typoma.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-28 6:57 ` luigi scarso 2007-03-28 9:51 ` Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-28 9:56 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-03-28 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users luigi scarso wrote: >> One way to reach this, is to set the row height of every single table >> line to the default interline space of ConTeXt. >> The table rows now sync with the grid (same height), but behind the >> table you are again out of sync. You can use \syncronizegrid to fix this. >> when spacing is suboptimal boxed stuff (\bTABLE, \starttable, \framed) should be surrounded by \startlinecorrection \stoplinecorrection (also better in non grid mode) unless it's a float for your own macros, use \snaptogrid\vbox{...} > hmm, some problems (see %Pj ) > %%%%% > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > %P1 %% all docs is in grid mode, > %%%%% but the request was only for tables > \showgrid > \showstruts > > \starttext > > \input tufte > > \setupTABLE[r][each][height=\the\baselineskip] % default linespacing in ConTeXt > \setupTABLE[c][1,2,4][width=.2\textwidth] > \setupTABLE[c][3][width=.4\textwidth] > \setupTABLE[frame=on] > > \blank > > \bTABLE > \bTR > \bTD Axxx \eTD > \bTD yyyy \eTD > \bTD [row=2] first entry with\\ more text \eTD > %P2 %%% you must enter row=2manually > %%%%% maybe can be calculate by a macro > \bTD zzz \eTD > \eTR > % > \bTR > \bTD \eTD > \bTD \eTD > % \bTD \eTD % [row=2] > \bTD \eTD > \eTR > % > \bTR > \bTD Bxxx \eTD > \bTD yyyy \eTD > \bTD next entry \eTD > \bTD zzz \ruledvbox to 3cm{ jkjfd kjhsdkfjhsd }\eTD > %P3 %% ugly cell -- some try-and-errors to find k such as row=k > %%%%% is good > \eTR > \eTABLE > > \synchronizegrid > \blank > > \input tufte > > \stoptext > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > One strategy could be consider both the ways showed. > Also I found an interestring document at > http://www.datapat.de/101.pdf > > luigi > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Grid-keeping table 2007-03-27 15:54 ` Grid-keeping table Johannes Kuester 2007-03-27 16:46 ` luigi scarso 2007-03-27 18:38 ` Peter Rolf @ 2007-03-30 2:51 ` luigi scarso 2 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2007-03-30 2:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 3/27/07, Johannes Kuester <jk@typoma.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm trying to typeset a rather simple list or table where each line > should keep the overall grid of my page design. > For this I tried "tabulate", "table", and "TABLE", but all failed. > > What I need is the following: > 4 columns, each with a fixed width. > One of the columns may contain a paragraph (i.e. more than one line), like: > > Axxx yyyy first entry with zzz > more text > Bxxx yyyy next entry zzz > some ideas %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \newdimen\CellWidth \CellWidth=0.2\textwidth %% or whatever is good \newdimen\CellHeightOne \CellHeightOne=\lineheight %% synch with grid \newdimen\TestDim \long\def\CellContent#1{% \setbox100=\vbox{\hsize=\CellWidth% #1} \dp100=0pt% \TestDim=\CellHeightOne \doloop{%30 \ifdim\ht100<\TestDim% \setbox100=\vbox to \TestDim{\hsize=\CellWidth \recurselevel #1}\exitloop\fi \TestDim=\dimexpr(\CellHeightOne+\TestDim)\relax} \dp100=0pt% \ruledvbox{\box100}%ruled for test } \setupcolors[state=start] \setuplayout[grid=yes] \setupTABLE[width=\CellWidth,offset=0pt,strut=no] \showgrid \starttext \ \blank \bTABLE \bTR \bTD\CellContent{Axxx}\eTD \bTD\CellContent{yyyy} \eTD \bTD\CellContent{first entry with \\ more text}\eTD \bTD\CellContent{zzz} \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD\CellContent{Bxxx} \eTD \bTD\CellContent{fff}\eTD \bTD\CellContent{next entry} \eTD \bTD\CellContent{zzz}\eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD\CellContent{Axxx}\eTD \bTD\CellContent{foo \\ boo \\ coo \\ doo} \eTD \bTD\CellContent{\input ward }\eTD \bTD\CellContent{zzz} \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stoptext 1) there are extra spaces between rows that i don't manage 2) i think to avoid \CellContent every \bTD\..\eTD (re-reading core-ntb) luigi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-27 11:28 TextMate bundle Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-27 13:30 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2007-03-27 15:54 ` Grid-keeping table Johannes Kuester @ 2007-03-27 19:18 ` Willi Egger 2007-03-30 16:09 ` Patrick Gundlach 3 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Willi Egger @ 2007-03-27 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Patrick, Yeah! Downloaded and updated. I will test and comment. Thanks a lot! Willi On Mar 27, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > Hi (esp. Willi), > > I've uploaded the version 0.2 of my TextMate bundle. See > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Bundle_for_TextMate and > http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/ > > Direct download: > > http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/context-tmbundle.dmg > > Feedback welcome! > > Patrick > -- > ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Willi Egger w.egger@boede.nl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-27 11:28 TextMate bundle Patrick Gundlach ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2007-03-27 19:18 ` TextMate bundle Willi Egger @ 2007-03-30 16:09 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-30 16:29 ` Helin Gai 3 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hi, I've uploaded the version 0.3 of my TextMate bundle. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Bundle_for_TextMate and http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/ Direct download: http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/context-tmbundle.dmg Enjoy, Patrick Changes: 0.3: * scope set to text.tex.context for compatibility with the latex bundle (text.tex.latex) * include metafun language grammar based on a metapost bundle by Charilaos Skiadas * typeset (cmd-r) output window: * link to pdf file added (runs predefined viewer or 'Preview.app') * link to logfile * in case of an error: link to file/line * keybindings * typeset is now on cmd-r (for the sake of compatibility with all other textmate's bundles) * purge is now on ctrl-alt-backsapce (for the sake of.....) * view in pdfviwer is now on ctrl-alt-cmd-o (for the sake of ....) * cmd-i {\it ...} * cmd-b {\bf ...} * dragging images (png, pdf, jpg) to a ConTeXt source creates \externalfigure[<figname>] * sectioning commands: tab trigger 'sec' and 'sub' * wrap selection in \start...\stop (ctrl-shift-w) * Menu update * support for document outline (symbols in TextMate speak) -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 16:09 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 16:29 ` Helin Gai 2007-03-30 18:10 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-30 18:45 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Helin Gai @ 2007-03-30 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hey Patrick, Very cool update. One question tho, for the old version, I was able to play around with the typeset command to allow typesetting with XeTeX. In this new version, there's only one line in the typeset command: typeset_contextfile. Where can I tweak this then? Thanks! Helin On 3/30/07, Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > I've uploaded the version 0.3 of my TextMate bundle. See > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Bundle_for_TextMate and > http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/ > > Direct download: > > http://dl.contextgarden.net/support/context-tmbundle.dmg > > > Enjoy, > Patrick > > Changes: > > 0.3: > * scope set to text.tex.context for compatibility with the latex bundle (text.tex.latex) > * include metafun language grammar based on a metapost bundle by Charilaos Skiadas > * typeset (cmd-r) output window: > * link to pdf file added (runs predefined viewer or 'Preview.app') > * link to logfile > * in case of an error: link to file/line > * keybindings > * typeset is now on cmd-r (for the sake of compatibility with all other textmate's bundles) > * purge is now on ctrl-alt-backsapce (for the sake of.....) > * view in pdfviwer is now on ctrl-alt-cmd-o (for the sake of ....) > * cmd-i {\it ...} > * cmd-b {\bf ...} > * dragging images (png, pdf, jpg) to a ConTeXt source creates \externalfigure[<figname>] > * sectioning commands: tab trigger 'sec' and 'sub' > * wrap selection in \start...\stop (ctrl-shift-w) > * Menu update > * support for document outline (symbols in TextMate speak) > > > -- > ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > -- Helin (Colin) Gai Class of 2009, Duke University Box 96332 Durham, NC 27708 Phone: 919-943-6302 helin.gai at gmail.com hg9 at duke.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 16:29 ` Helin Gai @ 2007-03-30 18:10 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-30 18:45 ` Patrick Gundlach 1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hello Helin, > Very cool update. One question tho, for the old version, I was able to > play around with the typeset command to allow typesetting with XeTeX. > In this new version, there's only one line in the typeset command: > typeset_contextfile. Where can I tweak this then? Oh, sorry. Wait for 0.4 (to be released soon). Until then, you can put this in the first line of your TeX source: % engine=xetex Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 16:29 ` Helin Gai 2007-03-30 18:10 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 18:45 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-30 20:25 ` Helin Gai 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context > Very cool update. One question tho, for the old version, I was able to > play around with the typeset command to allow typesetting with XeTeX. > In this new version, there's only one line in the typeset command: > typeset_contextfile. Where can I tweak this then? download and install 0.4. Then set the variable 'CTX_ENGINE' to 'xetex'. See <http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070327.172247.4dc0b38a.en.html> for instructions. If this doesn't help, please write back. Patrick (the only change in 0.4 is the switch for the xetex engine) -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 18:45 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 20:25 ` Helin Gai 2007-03-30 21:17 ` Patrick Gundlach ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Helin Gai @ 2007-03-30 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Patrick, Thanks for prompt update. Personally, I feel it's probably more flexible to have two distinct command, one for pdftex, and another for xetex... Helin On 3/30/07, Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch> wrote: > > > > Very cool update. One question tho, for the old version, I was able to > > play around with the typeset command to allow typesetting with XeTeX. > > In this new version, there's only one line in the typeset command: > > typeset_contextfile. Where can I tweak this then? > > download and install 0.4. Then set the variable 'CTX_ENGINE' to > 'xetex'. > > See > <http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070327.172247.4dc0b38a.en.html> > for instructions. If this doesn't help, please write back. > > Patrick > > (the only change in 0.4 is the switch for the xetex engine) > -- > ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > -- Helin (Colin) Gai Class of 2009, Duke University Box 96332 Durham, NC 27708 Phone: 919-943-6302 helin.gai at gmail.com hg9 at duke.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 20:25 ` Helin Gai @ 2007-03-30 21:17 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-30 22:29 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-04-01 19:28 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hello Helin, > Personally, I feel it's probably more flexible to have two distinct > command, one for pdftex, and another for xetex... You can set this variable on a per project basis. So for project A set it to xetex, for project B set it to pdftex or unset it. This way you don't have to remeber wich project used which engine. Patrick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 20:25 ` Helin Gai 2007-03-30 21:17 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 22:29 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-30 23:02 ` Helin Gai 2007-04-01 19:28 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 335 bytes --] Hello again, > Thanks for prompt update. > > Personally, I feel it's probably more flexible to have two distinct > command, one for pdftex, and another for xetex... Here is one for you. It is just a duplicate of 'typeset' with the following command: CTX_ENGINE=xetex typeset_contextfile Same key equivalent, same scope. Patrick [-- Attachment #2: typeset with xetex.tmCommand --] [-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 731 bytes --] <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>beforeRunningCommand</key> <string>saveActiveFile</string> <key>bundleUUID</key> <string>6E6A2F78-B26A-43F6-94CB-7291D3A72646</string> <key>command</key> <string>CTX_ENGINE=xetex typeset_contextfile</string> <key>input</key> <string>none</string> <key>keyEquivalent</key> <string>@r</string> <key>name</key> <string>typeset with xetex</string> <key>output</key> <string>showAsHTML</string> <key>scope</key> <string>text.tex.context</string> <key>uuid</key> <string>37AF9824-BFF5-49B9-9BCE-40BA859D85E0</string> </dict> </plist> [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 53 bytes --] -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net [-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 139 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 22:29 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-03-30 23:02 ` Helin Gai 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Helin Gai @ 2007-03-30 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Amazing. Thanks so much! On 3/30/07, Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch> wrote: > Hello again, > > > Thanks for prompt update. > > > > Personally, I feel it's probably more flexible to have two distinct > > command, one for pdftex, and another for xetex... > > Here is one for you. It is just a duplicate of 'typeset' with the > following command: > > CTX_ENGINE=xetex typeset_contextfile > > Same key equivalent, same scope. > > > Patrick > > > -- > ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > -- Helin (Colin) Gai Class of 2009, Duke University Box 96332 Durham, NC 27708 Phone: 919-943-6302 helin.gai at gmail.com hg9 at duke.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: TextMate bundle 2007-03-30 20:25 ` Helin Gai 2007-03-30 21:17 ` Patrick Gundlach 2007-03-30 22:29 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-04-01 19:28 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-04-01 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Helin Gai wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > Thanks for prompt update. > > Personally, I feel it's probably more flexible to have two distinct > command, one for pdftex, and another for xetex... > since xetex and pdftex and luatex have subtle differences one can consider adding % engine=xetex to the top of the file; no need for commands then Hans ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
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