columns

columns

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number> and height=<dimension>? I've
played with these parameters but couldn't see any effect.


Is it possible that align=yes/no is incorrect? See 

http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/page-mul.tex?search=%40%40klalign

(search for @@klalign)

Patrick
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Re: columns

[Aditya Mahajan]

Quoting Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch>:

> Hi,
>
> in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number>

 From the source: the minimum number op balanced top lines

Consider
\starttext
\startcolumns[n=2,ntop=15,balance=yes]
  \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
\stopcolumns
\page
\startcolumns[n=2,ntop=5,balance=yes]
  \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
\stopcolumns
\stoptext

> and height=<dimension>? I've
> played with these parameters but couldn't see any effect.

I could not get any visible effect from height=...

>
> Is it possible that align=yes/no is incorrect? See

Dont't know.

Aditya
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Re: columns

[Patrick Gundlach]

[...]

>> in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number>
>
>  From the source: the minimum number op balanced top lines
>
> Consider
> \starttext
> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=15,balance=yes]
>   \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
> \stopcolumns
> \page
> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=5,balance=yes]
>   \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
> \stopcolumns
> \stoptext

This seems to be a binary switch, right? no difference in your example
between ntop=15 and ntop=13.

Patrick
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Re: columns

[Aditya Mahajan]

Quoting Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch>:

>
> [...]
>
>>> in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number>
>>
>>  From the source: the minimum number op balanced top lines
>>
>> Consider
>> \starttext
>> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=15,balance=yes]
>>   \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
>> \stopcolumns
>> \page
>> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=5,balance=yes]
>>   \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
>> \stopcolumns
>> \stoptext
>
> This seems to be a binary switch, right? no difference in your example
> between ntop=15 and ntop=13.

Yes. The way I understand this is: if the number of lines in the column 
after balancing are greater than ntop, do column balancing (if enabled) 
otherwise not. For example,

\showgrid
\starttext
\dostepwiserecurse{5}{15}{1}{
\section{\recurselevel}
\startcolumns[n=2,ntop=\recurselevel,balance=yes]
  \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
\stopcolumns
\page}
\stoptext

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Re: columns

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

(repost - anybody got an idea on this question?)


> Is it possible that align=yes/no is incorrect? See 
>
> http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/page-mul.tex?search=%40%40klalign
>
> (search for @@klalign)


\setupcolumns accept align=yes,no,text but the source seem to indicate
that only 'text' is allowed which will be passed to \setupalign -
which itself does not accept 'yes' or 'no'.

Any comments?

Patrick
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Re: columns

[luigi scarso]

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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 10/3/2013 12:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 03.10.2013 um 12:26 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
>>
>>  If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its
>>> content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified.
>>> But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?
>>>
>>
>> The global settings for mixedcolumns are
>>
>>     \setupmixedcolumns
>>       [maxwidth=\makeupwidth]
>>
>> which forces columns to use the width of the textblock but boxedcolumns
>> uses this
>>
>>     \definemixedcolumns
>>       [boxedcolumns]
>>       [maxwidth=\availablehsize]
>>
>> where the width of the columns depends on the available width of the
>> environment,
>> e.g. in a narrower environment or in a frame the you get shorter columns.
>>
>
> also, boxedcolumns, as the name says, are for use in boxes while by
> default mixedcolumns (unless set up as boxed) are operating at the page
> level (the so called mvl)
>
> For the curious:
mvl is the main vertical list ,
see
books.google.com
"The advanced Texbook"
pag 295


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Re: columns

[Hans Hagen]

On 10/3/2013 12:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 03.10.2013 um 12:26 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
>
>> If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified. But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?
>
> The global settings for mixedcolumns are
>
>     \setupmixedcolumns
>       [maxwidth=\makeupwidth]
>
> which forces columns to use the width of the textblock but boxedcolumns uses this
>
>     \definemixedcolumns
>       [boxedcolumns]
>       [maxwidth=\availablehsize]
>
> where the width of the columns depends on the available width of the environment,
> e.g. in a narrower environment or in a frame the you get shorter columns.

also, boxedcolumns, as the name says, are for use in boxes while by 
default mixedcolumns (unless set up as boxed) are operating at the page 
level (the so called mvl)

Hans

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Re: columns

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.10.2013 um 12:26 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:

> If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified. But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?

The global settings for mixedcolumns are

   \setupmixedcolumns
     [maxwidth=\makeupwidth]

which forces columns to use the width of the textblock but boxedcolumns uses this

   \definemixedcolumns
     [boxedcolumns]
     [maxwidth=\availablehsize]

where the width of the columns depends on the available width of the environment,
e.g. in a narrower environment or in a frame the you get shorter columns.

Wolfgang


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Re: columns

[H. van der Meer]

If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified. But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?

Hans van der Meer



On 3 okt. 2013, at 12:07, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>
 wrote:

> 
> Am 03.10.2013 um 12:02 schrieb "H. van der Meer" <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> But I think mixedcolumns has to solve a problem width the width of the frametext. Whereas boxedcolumns honors the width of the enclosing framedtext, mixedcolumns does not. See the example.
> 
> Boxedcolumns are a instance of mixedcolumns and are defined as
> 
>   \definemixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]
> 
> 
> You can also use them this way:
> 
>   \startmixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]
>   …
>   \stopmixedcolumns
> 
> 
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Re: columns

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.10.2013 um 12:02 schrieb "H. van der Meer" <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:

> Thanks, 
> 
> But I think mixedcolumns has to solve a problem width the width of the frametext. Whereas boxedcolumns honors the width of the enclosing framedtext, mixedcolumns does not. See the example.

Boxedcolumns are a instance of mixedcolumns and are defined as

   \definemixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]


You can also use them this way:

   \startmixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]
   …
   \stopmixedcolumns


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Re: columns

[H. van der Meer]

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Thanks, 

But I think mixedcolumns has to solve a problem width the width of the frametext. Whereas boxedcolumns honors the width of the enclosing framedtext, mixedcolumns does not. See the example.

% NOT OK WIDTH NOT RESPECTED
\startframedtext[width=.8\makeupwidth,align=verytolerant]
\startmixedcolumns[n=2,separator=rule,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopmixedcolumns
\stopframedtext
\blank
% OK
\startframedtext[width=.8\makeupwidth,align=verytolerant]
\startboxedcolumns[n=2,separator=rule,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopboxedcolumns
\stopframedtext

Hans van der Meer


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On 3 okt. 2013, at 11:09, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Am 03.10.2013 um 10:21 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
> 
>> I have some difficulties with columns inside a framedtext. The example below shows that columns does not work inside framedtext, whereas simplecolumns does. However, the latter does not show rules between the columns. Can I have both?
>> 
>> Is columns definitely not working here or is it temporarily until something is fixed? Or will simplecolumns be extended to show the rules?
>> 
>> % test columns within framedtext
>> \starttext
>> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
>> \startcolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
>> \input tufte
>> \stopcolumns
>> \stopframedtext
>> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
>> \blank
>> \startsimplecolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
>> \input tufte
>> \stopsimplecolumns
>> \stopframedtext
>> \stoptext
> 
> The new mixedcolumns environment can be used to the typeset columns in a frame.
> 
> There is also a predefined bolxedcolumns environment which changes the width of
> the columns when you use it in \startframed etc.
> 
> \setupalign[verytolerant]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
> \input tufte
> \stopboxedcolumns
> 
> \startframedtext[width=max,align=verytolerant]
> \startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
> \input tufte
> \stopboxedcolumns
> \stopframedtext
> 
> \stoptext
> 
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Re: columns

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.10.2013 um 10:21 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:

> I have some difficulties with columns inside a framedtext. The example below shows that columns does not work inside framedtext, whereas simplecolumns does. However, the latter does not show rules between the columns. Can I have both?
> 
> Is columns definitely not working here or is it temporarily until something is fixed? Or will simplecolumns be extended to show the rules?
> 
> % test columns within framedtext
> \starttext
> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
> \startcolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
> \input tufte
> \stopcolumns
> \stopframedtext
> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
> \blank
> \startsimplecolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
> \input tufte
> \stopsimplecolumns
> \stopframedtext
> \stoptext

The new mixedcolumns environment can be used to the typeset columns in a frame.

There is also a predefined bolxedcolumns environment which changes the width of
the columns when you use it in \startframed etc.

\setupalign[verytolerant]

\starttext

\startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
\input tufte
\stopboxedcolumns

\startframedtext[width=max,align=verytolerant]
\startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
\input tufte
\stopboxedcolumns
\stopframedtext

\stoptext

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columns

[H. van der Meer]

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I have some difficulties with columns inside a framedtext. The example below shows that columns does not work inside framedtext, whereas simplecolumns does. However, the latter does not show rules between the columns. Can I have both?

Is columns definitely not working here or is it temporarily until something is fixed? Or will simplecolumns be extended to show the rules?

% test columns within framedtext
\starttext
\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
\startcolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopcolumns
\stopframedtext
\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
\blank
\startsimplecolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopsimplecolumns
\stopframedtext
\stoptext


Hans van der Meer

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Re: Columns

[Patrick Gundlach]

Sytse Knypstra <S.Knypstra@eco.rug.nl> writes:

Hi,

>>(ConTeXt  ver: 2002.8.23  fmt: 2002.11.25  int: dutch  mes: dutch)
>
> Maybe there have been relevant changes since august last year?

You must be joking! 

(Seriously; I have no idea what the changes were since last August;
 you should really try a recent ConTeXt version.)

Patrick

Re: Columns

[Patrick Gundlach]

Sytse Knypstra <S.Knypstra@eco.rug.nl> writes:

Hello,

> I am using two columns, but the command \column which should force a
> transition to the next column does not work.
> Here is a small example (in dutch):

[...example...]



that looks OK here:


Tekst 1.                   Tekst 2.
                           Tekst 3.



Isn't this what you want to get?

(ConTeXt  ver: 2003.3.17  fmt: 2003.3.18  int: dutch  mes: dutch)



Patrick

Columns

[Sytse Knypstra]

Hi,

I am using two columns, but the command \column which should force a 
transition to the next column does not work.
Here is a small example (in dutch):

\steluitvoerin[pdftex]
\stelkolommenin[n=2]
\starttekst
\startkolommen
Tekst 1.
\kolom
Tekst 2.

Tekst 3.
\stopkolommen
\stoptekst

Regards,

Sytse Knypstra

S.Knypstra@eco.rug.nl