From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/18796 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Patrick Gundlach" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Learning ConTeXt, typical hurdle Date: 10 Mar 2005 18:05:02 +0100 Organization: chaos Message-ID: References: <60028.213.84.141.31.1110461682.squirrel@213.84.141.31> <60915.213.84.141.31.1110470951.squirrel@213.84.141.31> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1110474295 12989 80.91.229.2 (10 Mar 2005 17:04:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Mar 10 18:04:54 2005 Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D9R50-0004xu-Ky for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:04:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB78612818; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:04:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05384-02; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:04:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8C012811; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFFD12811 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05446-01 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:04:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lilly.ping.de (lilly.ping.de [83.97.42.2]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 84D091280F for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:04:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 15364 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2005 17:04:31 -0000 Original-Received: (ofmipd 193.251.46.164); 10 Mar 2005 17:04:09 -0000 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Lieblings-Musik: the_capricorns In-Reply-To: <60915.213.84.141.31.1110470951.squirrel@213.84.141.31> (Gerben Wierda's message of "Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:09:11 +0100 (CET)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-MailScanner-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-MailScanner-To: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:18796 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:18796 Hello Gerben, [...] >> Things that were defined using \definedescription rely on \par as a >> delimiter. > What this introduces is that the working of the ascii file depends on its > layout. I completely agree with you here. This description - \par thing has been on the mailinglist a couple times. But: that is TeX (you know that, but I wanted to point this out again). TeX is really sensitive to source layout. LaTeX is doing a good job to remove a lot of dependencies, but does not do a perfect job. In some places, ConTeXt is a bit worse. But you will come across this only on some older definitions like \definedescription. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net