Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Mojca,

>  > do you have
>  >
>  > \protectbufferstrue
>  >
>  > in cont-sys.tex?
>
> I renamed the file once for some reason (I don't remember why, but
> I've probably read something about removing the file; my apologises if
> I accused MikTeX for that).
>
> Now I renamed the file back, (\protectbufferstrue was already there),
> executed texexec --make -all, but now I get an empty PDF file instead
> of at least a circle. And even if I delete this line, it makes no
> change.

Hmm, strange. Please post the complete log to the list(!). And perhaps
you can post the relevant lines of cont-sys.tex. Do you have
shell-escape (=write18) enabled in MikTeX? I don't know where to look
(I don't use MikTeX).

Patrick

Re: Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Mojca Miklavec]

>> > do you have
>> >
>> > \protectbufferstrue
>> >
>> > in cont-sys.tex?
>>
>>I renamed the file once for some reason (I don't remember why, but
>>I've probably read something about removing the file; my apologises if
>>I accused MikTeX for that).
>>
>>Now I renamed the file back, (\protectbufferstrue was already there),
>>executed texexec --make -all, but now I get an empty PDF file instead
>>of at least a circle. And even if I delete this line, it makes no
>>change.
> 
> Hmm, strange. Please post the complete log to the list(!). And perhaps
> you can post the relevant lines of cont-sys.tex. Do you have
> shell-escape (=write18) enabled in MikTeX?

(If I knew what that was ...) :(

> I don't know where to look
> (I don't use MikTeX).

> Patrick

I don't like posting garbagge on the mailing list, but here it is:

This is my complete cont-sys.tex:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\unprotect
\setupoutput [pdf]
\runMPgraphicstrue
\runMPTEXgraphicstrue
\useMETAFUNformattrue
\newprettytrue
\protectbufferstrue
\protect \endinput
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

This is my file:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\starttext
\startMPpage
draw textext.origin("x");
draw fullcircle scaled 2cm;
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

And these are the logs:

[probably with something worht pointing out]

system(texexec --batch --output=dvips --mpformat=metafun --mptex --nomp 
--once
x-origin-mpgraph)...disabled.

.log
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (MiKTeX 2.4) (preloaded 
format=cont-en 2004.10.2)  15 OCT 2004 05:25
entering extended mode
**x-origin.tex
(x-origin.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2004.8.15  fmt: 2004.10.2  int: english  mes: english

language       : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system         : cont-new loaded
(C:\Programme\MikTeX\tex\context\base\cont-new.tex
systems        : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
color          : palette rollover is available
system (E-TEX) : [line 567]
system (E-TEX) : [line 622]
)
system         : cont-old loaded
(C:\Programme\MikTeX\tex\context\base\cont-old.tex
loading        : Context Old Macros
)
system         : cont-fil loaded
(C:\Programme\MikTeX\tex\context\base\cont-fil.tex
loading        : Context File Synonyms
)
system         : cont-sys loaded
(C:\Programme\MikTeX\tex\context\base\cont-sys.tex
specials       : loading definition file tpd
(C:\Programme\MikTeX\tex\context\base\spec-tpd.tex
specials       : loading definition file fdf
(C:\Programme\MikTeX\tex\context\base\spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3> 
<unprotect 4>
system (E-TEX) : [line 2253] \ifcsname
<protect 4> <protect 3>)
specials       : fdf loaded
<unprotect 3> <protect 3>)
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
)
bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded
language       : patterns 2:2-en-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 
8:2-nl-2
  loaded
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
system         : x-origin.top loaded
(./x-origin.top) (./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo)
(./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo)
(./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo)
(./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo) (./x-origin.tuo)
fonts          : needs map file: ec-public-lm.map
fonts          : needs map file: original-base.map
systems        : begin file x-origin at line 1
systems        : randomizer starts with 385210193
system(texexec --batch --output=dvips --mpformat=metafun --mptex --nomp 
--once
x-origin-mpgraph)...disabled.

[MP x-origin-mpgraph.1] [1.1]
systems        : end file x-origin at line 6
  )
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
  1015 strings out of 66088
  14690 string characters out of 724779
  440778 words of memory out of 1079542
  32633 multiletter control sequences out of 35000
  10284 words of font info for 34 fonts, out of 500000 for 1000
  54 hyphenation exceptions out of 607
  37i,14n,34p,286b,454s stack positions out of 
1500i,500n,5000p,200000b,32768s
  4 PDF objects out of 300000
  0 named destinations out of 300000
  1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536

Output written on x-origin.pdf (1 page, 1008 bytes).
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

.tmp
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
% x-origin.top
\unprotect
\def\MPOSTbatchswitch   {--interaction=batchmode}\def\MPOSTnonstopswitch 
{--interaction=nonstopmode}\def\MPOSTformatswitch  {--alias=mpost 
--translate-file=natural.tcx 
--undump=}\setupsystem[\c!gebied={"C:/mojcam/"}]
\setupsystem[\c!n=2]
\setupsystem[inputfile=x-origin.tex]
\protect
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Thank you, Mojca

Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Mojca,

I can only guess, since I (do I repeat myself?) don't have MikTeX
installed. 

It seems that you don't have shell-escape or write18 enabled. This
feature lets you run external programs from your tex-run. This is a
potential security hole, so it is disabled by default. You have two
options, enable write18 by using --shell-escape on the command line 
(see http://www.phys.uvic.ca/Help_Guides/miktex.html#IDX164 ) or tell
ConTeXt to do without (that's what I have on live.contextgarden.net)


[cont-sys.tex:]

> \unprotect
> \setupoutput [pdf]

this should be [pdftex], not [pdf] (please correct me if I'm wrong)

> \runMPgraphicstrue
> \runMPTEXgraphicstrue

disable these two:

% \runMPgraphicstrue
% \runMPTEXgraphicstrue

[...]

Hope this helps.

Patrick
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ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

Re: Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> system(texexec --batch --output=dvips --mpformat=metafun --mptex --nomp 
> --once
> x-origin-mpgraph)...disabled.

run:

   kpsewhich texmf.cnf

and search in that file for write18, enable it and your setup will work

Hans



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Re: Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> 
>> system(texexec --batch --output=dvips --mpformat=metafun --mptex 
>> --nomp --once
>> x-origin-mpgraph)...disabled.
> 
> run:
> 
>   kpsewhich texmf.cnf
> 
> and search in that file for write18, enable it and your setup will work
> 
> Hans

Thanks a lot to both of you. It finally works. The line I had to change 
was in miktex.ini. (I never had to bother about MikTeX specific issues 
till now and I didn't expect the problem to lie so deep in the system.)

Thanks,
	Mojca

Now I've found a couple of old posts with more or less the same problem 
on this and some other mailing lists, but I didn't know what to look for 
before. Would it make sense to add just a short hint for newbies 
somewhere at the beginning of the manual, warning that write18 has to be 
enabled in order to process some graphics properly?

Re: Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Adam Lindsay]

Mojca Miklavec said this at Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:10:46 +0200:

>Thanks a lot to both of you. It finally works. The line I had to change 
>was in miktex.ini. (I never had to bother about MikTeX specific issues 
>till now and I didn't expect the problem to lie so deep in the system.)

I found it bad to do this so deep in the system as well. I found a way
that enables \write18 only for ConTeXt, using the texexec configuration
file. I documented it at:
<http://contextgarden.net/Texexec.ini>

Basically, you would change texexec.ini so that it had the line:
for  miktex  set  TeXPassString     to  --alias=context -shell-escape

...is there any reason why this wouldn't work for MikTeX?
or, for that matter, for general ConTeXt use?

>Would it make sense to add just a short hint for newbies 
>somewhere at the beginning of the manual, warning that write18 has to be 
>enabled in order to process some graphics properly?

:) I suppose Hans could, but it would mean fewer people come join the
ConTeXt community...
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Re: Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Hans Hagen]

Adam Lindsay wrote:

> :) I suppose Hans could, but it would mean fewer people come join the
> ConTeXt community...

if you don't run mp graphics using write 18 (disabled in texmf.cnf as 
well as in cont-sys.tex) then mp should be called in between

(same as --automp)

Hans


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Re: textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Mojca Miklavec,

> The following example works on live@contextgarden, but on my computer
> it only writes "unknown" at the place of "x". btex etex also doesn't
> work in ConTeXt (metaplay) on my computer, although it does without
> any problems in metapost/mptopdf.

do you have 

\protectbufferstrue

in cont-sys.tex?


Patrick
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ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

textext() doesn't work on my MikTeX distr.

[Mojca Miklavec]

The following example works on live@contextgarden, but on my computer it 
only writes "unknown" at the place of "x". btex etex also doesn't work 
in ConTeXt (metaplay) on my computer, although it does without any 
problems in metapost/mptopdf.

\starttext
\startMPpage
draw textext.origin("x");
draw fullcircle scaled 2cm;
\stopMPpage
\stoptext

I use the latest MikTeX distribution (although ConTeXt may not be really 
up-to-date, but that shouldn't be a problem, I suppose). It's probably 
just a matter of a single setting or so (it should be corrected in 
MikTeX as well if that's the case), but I don't know where to start looking.

Thanks for help, Mojca Miklavec