strange tabulate

strange tabulate

[Patrick Gundlach]

Dear ConTeXt users,

I have a question (well, it was not really my question in the
beginning, but I could not find any answers).

The first tabulate gives me rules, the second does not. Which would
not harm if this is documented. But in the MAPS article mentioned
recently and in the up-to-date the examples clearly show that \HL
should give me a horizontal line. What is going on?



%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\starttext
\starttabulate[|l|p|]
\HR
\NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
\HR
\NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
\HR
\NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
\HR
\stoptabulate

\starttabulate[|l|p|]
\HL
\NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
\HL
\NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
\HL
\NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
\HL
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Patrick
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Re: strange tabulate

[Willi Egger]

Hi Patrick
> The first tabulate gives me rules, the second does not. Which would
> not harm if this is documented. But in the MAPS article mentioned
> recently and in the up-to-date the examples clearly show that \HL
> should give me a horizontal line. What is going on?
>
>
>
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> \starttext
> \starttabulate[|l|p|]
> \HR
> \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
> \HR
> \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
> \HR
> \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
> \HR
> \stoptabulate
>
> \starttabulate[|l|p|]
> \HL
> \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
> \HL
> \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
> \HL
> \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
> \HL
> \stoptabulate
> \stoptext
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

I tried your example and indeed there are no horizontal lines in the second
tabulate. - I checked then may latest document, where I have such
tabulations included. And indeed there are no horizontal lines too. The
mentioned document was compiled on 19-09-2003 before the update to the
latest beta version on 20-09-2003. - Unnoticed this problem was already
present in the previous beta-version.

Willi

Re: strange tabulate

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Willi,

> I tried your example and indeed there are no horizontal lines in the second
> tabulate. - I checked then may latest document, where I have such
> tabulations included. 

OK, thanks for your answer. So I hope that Hans gets this note and
resolves the problem.... :-)

Patrick
-- 
Silent is the goldfish in its bowl

Re: strange tabulate

[Hans Hagen]

At 20:26 22/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:

> > \starttabulate[|l|p|]
> > \HL
> > \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
> > \HL
> > \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
> > \HL
> > \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
> > \HL
> > \stoptabulate
> > \stoptext
> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

in core-tbl.tex, search for \let\HL\empty and comment that line

    %\let\HL\empty
    \let\SR\NR \let\AR\NR
    \let\FL\empty \let\FR\NR
    \let\ML\empty \let\MR\NR
    \let\LL\empty \let\LR\NR

(i added a few more options like grid based lines and some settings and 
somehow this got messed up)

Hans
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Re: strange tabulate

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:

Hi,
>> > \starttabulate[|l|p|]
>> > \HL
>> > \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
>> > \HL
>> > \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
>> > \HL
>> > \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
>> > \HL
>> > \stoptabulate
>> > \stoptext
>> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
> (i added a few more options like grid based lines and some settings
> and somehow this got messed up)

it seems still a bit messed up. I have tried 2003.9.24 (not your
patch) and the above gives me 


small    They say...
-------------------
medium   It seems...
-------------------
large    Large T....

instead of 

-------------------
small    They say...
-------------------
medium   It seems...
-------------------
large    Large T....
-------------------


Patrick
-- 
You are your own rainbow!

Re: Re: strange tabulate

[Willi Egger]

Hi Patrick,


> Hi,
> >> > \starttabulate[|l|p|]
> >> > \HL
> >> > \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
> >> > \HL
> >> > \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
> >> > \HL
> >> > \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
> >> > \HL
> >> > \stoptabulate
> >> > \stoptext
> >> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> >
> > (i added a few more options like grid based lines and some settings
> > and somehow this got messed up)
>
> it seems still a bit messed up. I have tried 2003.9.24 (not your
> patch) and the above gives me
>
>
> small    They say...
> -------------------
> medium   It seems...
> -------------------
> large    Large T....
>
> instead of
>
> -------------------
> small    They say...
> -------------------
> medium   It seems...
> -------------------
> large    Large T....
> -------------------
>

Also here with the beta of 24.09.2003  there is no horizontal line before
the first row and after the last row.

Willi

Re: Re: strange tabulate

[Hans Hagen]

At 16:16 25/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:

>Also here with the beta of 24.09.2003  there is no horizontal line before
>the first row and after the last row.

that's a feature

Hans
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Re: Re: strange tabulate

[Hans Hagen]

> >> > \starttabulate[|l|p|]
> >> > \HL

       \FL

> >> > \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR
> >> > \HL
> >> > \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR
> >> > \HL
> >> > \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR
> >> > \HL

       \LL

> >> > \stoptabulate

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Re: strange tabulate

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

>> >> > \starttabulate[|l|p|]
>> >> > \HL
>
>        \FL

OK, but then the up-to-date (4) is not up-to-date anymore.

Patrick

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You are your own rainbow!

Re: Re: strange tabulate

[Hans Hagen]

At 20:47 25/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
> >> >> > \starttabulate[|l|p|]
> >> >> > \HL
> >
> >        \FL
>
>OK, but then the up-to-date (4) is not up-to-date anymore.

eh .. looks like i have to look into it again ... must be a reason for it

Hans

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