* hyphenation not working @ 2005-03-18 6:05 Paul Tremblay 2005-03-18 9:05 ` Hans Hagen 2005-03-18 9:26 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-18 6:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Has anyone else had problems with hyphenation? I have a brand new version of ConTeXt, and cannot get one of its main features, hyphenation, to work. I looked at the documentation, specifically the file called hypenation patterns. According to this, I should be able to invoke a took called ctxtools, or at least a tool called texmfstart ctxtools. Neither tool exists with my distribution. I do have a file called hyphen.tex. On Hans' suggestion, I copied this to ushyph1.tex and ushyph2.tex. That didn't help. I also changed my cont-usr.tex file, changing all lines that had ushyp* to hyphen. This also didn't work. I am at a loss, and I consider hyphenation pretty important. How do I proceed from here? Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-18 6:05 hyphenation not working Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-18 9:05 ` Hans Hagen 2005-03-18 21:08 ` Paul Tremblay ` (2 more replies) 2005-03-18 9:26 ` Taco Hoekwater 1 sibling, 3 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-03-18 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Paul Tremblay wrote: > Has anyone else had problems with hyphenation? I have a brand new > version of ConTeXt, and cannot get one of its main features, hyphenation, > to work. > > I looked at the documentation, specifically the file called hypenation > patterns. According to this, I should be able to invoke a took called > ctxtools, or at least a tool called texmfstart ctxtools. Neither tool > exists with my distribution. > > I do have a file called hyphen.tex. On Hans' suggestion, I copied this > to ushyph1.tex and ushyph2.tex. That didn't help. I also changed my cont-usr.tex file, changing all lines that had ushyp* to hyphen. This also didn't work. did you run mktexlsr ? > I am at a loss, and I consider hyphenation pretty important. How do I > proceed from here? another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the formats (with --all option) i'd appreciate feedback about this working or not (since it's step 1 towards shipping context with its own instances of patterns) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-18 9:05 ` Hans Hagen @ 2005-03-18 21:08 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-18 21:55 ` Patrick Gundlach 2005-03-19 1:01 ` hyphenation not working Paul Tremblay 2005-03-20 12:18 ` hyphenation not working Christopher Creutzig 2 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-18 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw) On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 10:05:36AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > > Paul Tremblay wrote: > >Has anyone else had problems with hyphenation? I have a brand new > >version of ConTeXt, and cannot get one of its main features, hyphenation, > >to work. > > > >I looked at the documentation, specifically the file called hypenation > >patterns. According to this, I should be able to invoke a took called > >ctxtools, or at least a tool called texmfstart ctxtools. Neither tool > >exists with my distribution. > > > >I do have a file called hyphen.tex. On Hans' suggestion, I copied this > >to ushyph1.tex and ushyph2.tex. That didn't help. I also changed my > >cont-usr.tex file, changing all lines that had ushyp* to hyphen. This also > >didn't work. > > did you run mktexlsr ? > > >I am at a loss, and I consider hyphenation pretty important. How do I > >proceed from here? > > another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that > one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the > formats (with --all option) Where is this? I just spent 20 minutes searching the website. Paul > > i'd appreciate feedback about this working or not (since it's step 1 > towards shipping context with its own instances of patterns) > > Hans > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-18 21:08 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-18 21:55 ` Patrick Gundlach 2005-03-19 1:02 ` Paul Tremblay 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-18 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Paul, >> another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that >> one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the >> formats (with --all option) > > Where is this? I just spent 20 minutes searching the website. http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-18 21:55 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 1:02 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 10:11 ` yet another mirror (was: hyphenation not working) Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw) > > http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip > > Patrick > -- > ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net > _______________________________________________ Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right? Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* yet another mirror (was: hyphenation not working) 2005-03-19 1:02 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 10:11 ` Patrick Gundlach 2005-03-19 12:41 ` VnPenguin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello folks, >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip > Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right? I don't know, since I looked directly into the file structure. That is because I run yet another ConTeXt mirror at http://mirror.contextgarden.net You all know that there is http://tex.aanhet.net/context/ (Taco's mirror, click on the first link to get there - it leads you to http://context.aanhet.net/ ). Both mirrors are updated several times a day. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: yet another mirror (was: hyphenation not working) 2005-03-19 10:11 ` yet another mirror (was: hyphenation not working) Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 12:41 ` VnPenguin 2005-03-19 12:46 ` yet another mirror Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: VnPenguin @ 2005-03-19 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw) On 19 Mar 2005 11:11:52 +0100, Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch> wrote: > Hello folks, > > >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip > > > Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right? > > I don't know, since I looked directly into the file structure. That is > because I run yet another ConTeXt mirror at > > http://mirror.contextgarden.net When I click over the link "dir" http://mirror.contextgarden.net/dir I see: Not Found The requested URL /dir was not found on this server. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: yet another mirror 2005-03-19 12:41 ` VnPenguin @ 2005-03-19 12:46 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw) The virtual directories (/dir and /exalogin) cannot be mirrored at the moment. The same problem occurs at htpp://context.aanhet.net Greetings, Taco VnPenguin wrote: > On 19 Mar 2005 11:11:52 +0100, Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch> wrote: > >>Hello folks, >> >> >>>>http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip >> >>>Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right? >> >>I don't know, since I looked directly into the file structure. That is >>because I run yet another ConTeXt mirror at >> >>http://mirror.contextgarden.net > > > When I click over the link "dir" > http://mirror.contextgarden.net/dir > > I see: > > Not Found > > The requested URL /dir was not found on this server. > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-18 9:05 ` Hans Hagen 2005-03-18 21:08 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 1:01 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 8:03 ` Taco Hoekwater 2005-03-19 11:17 ` how to place figures next to each other Peter 2005-03-20 12:18 ` hyphenation not working Christopher Creutzig 2 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 1:01 UTC (permalink / raw) > another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that > one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the > formats (with --all option) > > i'd appreciate feedback about this working or not (since it's step 1 > towards shipping context with its own instances of patterns) I downloaded the patterns file and unzipped it. It put the following directory in my texmf directory: .tex/context/patterns I then ran texhash. I then ran ./mktexlsr --all. I then ran texexec test.tex. Still no hyphenation. My log file is below. Thanks Paul This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) (format=cont-en 2005.2.20) 18 MAR 2005 19:55 entering extended mode %&-line parsing enabled. (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) **&cont-en test.tex (./test.tex ConTeXt ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.2.20 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! color : palette rollover is available system (E-TEX) : [line 878] system (E-TEX) : [line 933] ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns de->texnansi:texnansi->3->2:2 de->ec:ec->4->2:2 fr-> texnansi:texnansi->5->2:2 fr->ec:ec->6->2:2 es->default:default->7->2:2 it->tex nansi:texnansi->8->2:2 it->ec:ec->9->2:2 nl->texnansi:texnansi->10->2:2 nl->ec: ec->11->2:2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded \openout2 = `test.tui'. system : test.top loaded (./test.top) \openout0 = `test-mpgraph.mp'. \openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'. (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) fonts : using map file: texnansi-public-lm.map fonts : using map file: original-public-vnr.map fonts : using map file: original-public-csr.map fonts : using map file: original-public-plr.map fonts : using map file: original-public-lm.map fonts : using map file: original-ams-euler.map fonts : using map file: original-ams-cmr.map fonts : using map file: texnansi-base.map fonts : using map file: t5-base.map fonts : using map file: qx-base.map fonts : using map file: 8r-base.map fonts : using map file: ec-base.map fonts : using map file: ec-public-lm.map fonts : using map file: original-base.map systems : begin file test at line 12 (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/page-run.tex loading : Context Page Macros / Runtime Macros ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/sample/tufte.tex) Overfull \hbox (2.48778pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1--34 \*12ptmmmr* our marvelous and everyday capacity to select, edit, \hbox(8.33331+2.33331)x256.07481, glue set - 1.0 .\*12ptmmmr* o .\*12ptmmmr* u .\*12ptmmmr* r .\glue 3.91663 plus 1.95831 minus 1.30554 .\*12ptmmmr* m .etc. Overfull \hbox (16.65291pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1--34 \*12ptmmmr* reduce, boil down, choose, categorize, catalog, classify, \hbox(8.33331+2.33331)x256.07481, glue set - 1.0 .\*12ptmmmr* r .\*12ptmmmr* e .\*12ptmmmr* d .\*12ptmmmr* u .\*12ptmmmr* c .etc. (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex [4.4]) Overfull \hbox (7.28357pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 12--34 []\*12ptmmmr* But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly \hbox(8.33331+2.33331)x256.07481, glue set - 1.0 .\hbox(0.0+0.0)x0.0 .\*12ptmmmr* B .\*12ptmmmr* u .\*12ptmmmr* t .\glue 3.91663 plus 1.95831 minus 1.30554 .etc. A LOT OF OTHER OVERFILL MESSAGES WHICH I CUT OUT [5.5] [6.6] systems : end file test at line 37 ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 691 strings out of 62989 11662 string characters out of 668839 4464250 words of memory out of 5506310 35404 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 10284 words of font info for 34 fonts, out of 1000000 for 2000 82 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 39i,20n,52p,181b,433s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,6000p,200000b,40000s 0 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 Output written on test.dvi (6 pages, 17272 bytes). -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 1:01 ` hyphenation not working Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 8:03 ` Taco Hoekwater 2005-03-19 15:16 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 15:26 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 11:17 ` how to place figures next to each other Peter 1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 8:03 UTC (permalink / raw) Paul Tremblay wrote: >>another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that >>one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the >>formats (with --all option) >> >>i'd appreciate feedback about this working or not (since it's step 1 >>towards shipping context with its own instances of patterns) > > > I downloaded the patterns file and unzipped it. It put the following > directory in my texmf directory: > > .tex/context/patterns > > I then ran texhash. I then ran ./mktexlsr --all. At this point, you missed a step: texexec --make > I then ran texexec test.tex. > > Still no hyphenation. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 8:03 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 15:16 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 15:26 ` Paul Tremblay 1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 09:03:08AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > >I downloaded the patterns file and unzipped it. It put the following > >directory in my texmf directory: > > > >.tex/context/patterns > > > >I then ran texhash. I then ran ./mktexlsr --all. > > At this point, you missed a step: > > texexec --make > > I just ran texexec --make Same. No hyphenation. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 8:03 ` Taco Hoekwater 2005-03-19 15:16 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 15:26 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 15:37 ` Taco Hoekwater 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw) > > At this point, you missed a step: > > texexec --make I re-ran the test and saved the output to a file. I opened the file and saw this: system (E-TEX) : [line 159] \ifcsname ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-ger.tex loading : Germanic Languages language : patterns for nl not loaded language : patterns for en not loaded language : patterns for de not loaded language : patterns for da not loaded language : patterns for sv not loaded language : patterns for af not loaded language : patterns for no not loaded language : patterns for deo not loaded language : patterns for uk not loaded language : patterns for us not loaded ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-ita.tex loading : Italic Languages language : patterns for fr not loaded language : patterns for es not loaded language : patterns for ca not loaded language : patterns for it not loaded language : patterns for la not loaded language : patterns for pt not loaded language : patterns for ro not loaded ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-sla.tex loading : Slavic Languages language : patterns for pl not loaded language : patterns for cz not loaded language : patterns for sk not loaded language : patterns for hr not loaded language : patterns for sl not loaded ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-alt.tex -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 15:26 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 15:37 ` Taco Hoekwater 2005-03-19 15:58 ` Paul Tremblay 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Paul, All of this must be maddening you by now. :'( > system (E-TEX) : [line 159] \ifcsname > ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-ger.tex > loading : Germanic Languages > language : patterns for nl not loaded > language : patterns for en not loaded Mine does that as well, but somewhat deeper in the log file, it restarts loading patterns, like this: (./cont-fmt.tex language : patterns nl for nl loaded(n=1,e=texnansi,m=texnansi) (/home/taco/texmf/tex/context/patterns/lang-nl.pat) language : hyphenations nl for nl loaded ... culminating in : 210 hyphenation exceptions Hyphenation trie of length 99454 has 4157 ops out of 35111 117 for language 34 31 for language 33 ....<30 lines or so, counting down> .. 265 for language 1 perhaps you also need to get the cont-tmf.zip from 'latest'? Mine has ConTeXt ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 int: english mes: english Good luck! Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 15:37 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 15:58 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 16:05 ` Adam Lindsay 2005-03-19 16:27 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw) > Mine does that as well, but somewhat deeper in the log file, it > restarts loading patterns, like this: > > > (./cont-fmt.tex > language : patterns nl for nl loaded(n=1,e=texnansi,m=texnansi) > (/home/taco/texmf/tex/context/patterns/lang-nl.pat) > language : hyphenations nl for nl loaded > ... > > culminating in : > > 210 hyphenation exceptions > Hyphenation trie of length 99454 has 4157 ops out of 35111 > 117 for language 34 > 31 for language 33 > ....<30 lines or so, counting down> .. > 265 for language 1 > > > perhaps you also need to get the cont-tmf.zip from 'latest'? Mine has > > ConTeXt ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 int: english mes: english > > Yes, now that I look deeper down in my log file, I see the same. Oh well. I guess I'll have to live without hyphenation. Just when I thought I was getting somewhere. Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 15:58 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 16:05 ` Adam Lindsay 2005-03-19 16:20 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 16:27 ` Taco Hoekwater 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Adam Lindsay @ 2005-03-19 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Paul Tremblay said this at Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:58:10 -0500: >> 210 hyphenation exceptions >> Hyphenation trie of length 99454 has 4157 ops out of 35111 >> 117 for language 34 >> 31 for language 33 >> ....<30 lines or so, counting down> .. >> 265 for language 1 >> >> >> perhaps you also need to get the cont-tmf.zip from 'latest'? Mine has >> >> ConTeXt ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 int: english mes: english >> >> > >Yes, now that I look deeper down in my log file, I see the same. Oh >well. I guess I'll have to live without hyphenation. Just when I thought >I was getting somewhere. So if I understand what you're saying, that suggests you do have the capability for hyphenation somewhere in your system. What is your test file? Can you strip it to its barest form? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 16:05 ` Adam Lindsay @ 2005-03-19 16:20 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 16:42 ` Adam Lindsay 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw) > So if I understand what you're saying, that suggests you do have the > capability for hyphenation somewhere in your system. What is your test > file? Can you strip it to its barest form? Here is the entire file. Luckily, it is very small. Thanks Paul % enable utf \enableregime[utf] % turn off automatic page numbering \setuppagenumbering[state=stop, way=bytext, alternative=doublesided] %\setupbodyfont[rm,12pt] %\setuplanguage[en][ state=start] %\language[en] %\setuptolerance[verytolerant] \starttext \setuppapersize[A4] % show frames so we can debug \showframe \definelayout[test][ backspace=50mm, cutspace=70mm, width=fit, ] % so it is always a good idea to use width=fit \setuplayout[test] \setupheadertexts[odd][][][even] Test\par % input text from another document \dorecurse{6}{\input tufte \par \input knuth \par} \stoptext -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 16:20 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 16:42 ` Adam Lindsay 2005-03-19 17:05 ` Paul Tremblay 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Adam Lindsay @ 2005-03-19 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) Paul Tremblay said this at Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:20:10 -0500: >> So if I understand what you're saying, that suggests you do have the >> capability for hyphenation somewhere in your system. What is your test >> file? Can you strip it to its barest form? > >Here is the entire file. Luckily, it is very small. That does show a fair bit of hyphenation, here. Taco says some wise things, and here are a couple things to insert at the beginning of your text that may help debug. (But, again, I'm no expert in this area.) \the\hyphenpenalty % (50 on my system) \showhyphenations{hypertextual} -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 16:42 ` Adam Lindsay @ 2005-03-19 17:05 ` Paul Tremblay 0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw) > > That does show a fair bit of hyphenation, here. Taco says some wise > things, and here are a couple things to insert at the beginning of your > text that may help debug. (But, again, I'm no expert in this area.) > > > \the\hyphenpenalty % (50 on my system) > > \showhyphenations{hypertextual} > I put these lines at the top of my file. My resulting dvi file shows these lines: 50 language : en(code:1) font : cmr12 encoding : default mapping : default sample : hypertextual It seems that the hypen penalty is what it should be. Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 15:58 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 16:05 ` Adam Lindsay @ 2005-03-19 16:27 ` Taco Hoekwater 2005-03-19 17:02 ` Paul Tremblay 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw) Paul Tremblay wrote: > > Yes, now that I look deeper down in my log file, I see the same. Oh > well. I guess I'll have to live without hyphenation. Just when I thought > I was getting somewhere. You are getting somewhere. The format files that have been created by texexec in that last 'texexec --make' know how to hyphenate text. There is only one job left to do: making it so that 'texexec test' uses the right (new) format file (and not the old one). Without exact log files, I doubt I can sort that out for you, but assuming you ran 'texexec --make' today, then 'texexec -version' should report the following date info: context : ver: 2005.03.16 cont-en : ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 mes: english cont-nl : ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 mes: dutch if not, some files need to be copied. Good luck, Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 16:27 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 17:02 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 17:56 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 17:02 UTC (permalink / raw) > You are getting somewhere. The format files that have been created > by texexec in that last 'texexec --make' know how to hyphenate text. > There is only one job left to do: making it so that 'texexec test' > uses the right (new) format file (and not the old one). Without > exact log files, I doubt I can sort that out for you, but assuming > you ran 'texexec --make' today, then 'texexec -version' should > report the following date info: > > context : ver: 2005.03.16 > cont-en : ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 mes: english > cont-nl : ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 mes: dutch > > if not, some files need to be copied. > > Good luck, > > Taco texexec --version: texexec : TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 tex : pdfeTeXk, 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) context : ver: 2005.01.31 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.2.20 mes: english Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 17:02 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 17:56 ` Patrick Gundlach 2005-03-19 21:39 ` Paul Tremblay 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Paul, [...] > texexec : TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004 > texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 > tex : pdfeTeXk, 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) > context : ver: 2005.01.31 > cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.2.20 mes: english So your format with the new patterns is not used. You generated the format Feb. 20 and downloaded the patters a few days ago. What happens if you run texexec --make --alone and copy the cont-en.fmt (or whatever it is called now) into the 'correct' path? Or leave it in the path that your test file is in and try the \showhyphenations{hypertextual} again. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 17:56 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 21:39 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 22:00 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw) > > What happens if you run > > texexec --make --alone > > and copy the cont-en.fmt (or whatever it is called now) into the > 'correct' path? Or leave it in the path that your test file is in and > try the \showhyphenations{hypertextual} again. > Back from my rally. And, success! If I leave the cont-en.fmt file in the same directory as I am running texeec, then I get hypenated text. So the goal is to move it to my path. But where exactly is my path? If I do a search for the cont-en.fmt file in texmf, I get: ./doc/man/man1/cont-en.1 ./tex/context/base/cont-en.tex ./tex/context/config/cont-en.ini ./tex/context/interface/cont-en.xml ./context/data/cont-en-scite.properties ./cont-en.log ./cont-en.fmt Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 21:39 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 22:00 ` Patrick Gundlach 2005-03-19 22:41 ` Paul Tremblay 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Paul, there should be some cont-en.fmt somewhere on your disk. Like /usr/local/texmf/web2c/context/cont-en.fmt, but this is just a wild guess. So you could copy your newly generated cont-en.fmt over the old one. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 22:00 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 22:41 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 22:47 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Patrick On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 11:00:57PM +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > > there should be some cont-en.fmt somewhere on your disk. Like > /usr/local/texmf/web2c/context/cont-en.fmt, but this is just a wild > guess. So you could copy your newly generated cont-en.fmt over the old > one. > Okay. I was looking for it in /usr/TeX/texmf directory. It was in /usr/TeX/texmf-var/web2c So everything works fine now. I assume that future versions of ConTeXt will install this file correctly? Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-19 22:41 ` Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-19 22:47 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2005-03-19 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello Paul, [...] > So everything works fine now. Good to hear. > I assume that future versions of ConTeXt will install this file > correctly? That should have been the case anyway. Can't tell you what went wrong. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* how to place figures next to each other 2005-03-19 1:01 ` hyphenation not working Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 8:03 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-19 11:17 ` Peter 2005-03-20 22:35 ` Matthias Weber 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Peter @ 2005-03-19 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Dear list, How can I place two figures next to each other without using a \startcombination ... \stopcombination group? I now have this, but it is not what I want: \gebruikexternfiguur[kortoctaaf][cekort][type=eps,hoogte=30mm] \gebruikexternfiguur[gebrokenoctaaf][gebroken][type=eps,hoogte=30mm] \plaatsfiguur [hier] [fig:klavieren] {Enkele varianten van het groot octaaf} {\startcombinatie[2*1] {\kortoctaaf}{kort octaaf} {\gebrokenoctaaf}{gebroken octaaf} \stopcombinatie} I want to have the two figures numbered as seperate, independent figures, but when using a combination, the whole combination is treated as one figure and gets only one number and one label. XXXX XXXX X X X X XXXX XXXX fig.n fig.n+1 I've consulted the manuals and searched the list archives, but I have not found a solution. tnx in advance, Peter van Kranenburg p.s. I've already sent this message to the list, thursday, but it didn't show up in my inbox. So this is another try. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: how to place figures next to each other 2005-03-19 11:17 ` how to place figures next to each other Peter @ 2005-03-20 22:35 ` Matthias Weber 2005-03-21 22:26 ` Peter 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Matthias Weber @ 2005-03-20 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw) The best I can get is \starttext \useexternalfigure[myfigure][filename][width=1in] \placetable[here][tab:2figures]{none} \starttable[|c|c|] \NC \placefigure[here]{My Caption 1}{\externalfigure[myfigure]} \NC \placefigure[here]{My Caption 1}{\externalfigure[myfigure]} \NC \FR \stoptable \stoptext But something in \placefigure produces undesired glue so that the figures end up in the margins. Somebody else? Matthias On Mar 19, 2005, at 6:17 AM, Peter wrote: > Dear list, > > How can I place two figures next to each other without using a > \startcombination ... \stopcombination group? > > I now have this, but it is not what I want: > > \gebruikexternfiguur[kortoctaaf][cekort][type=eps,hoogte=30mm] > \gebruikexternfiguur[gebrokenoctaaf][gebroken][type=eps,hoogte=30mm] > \plaatsfiguur > [hier] > [fig:klavieren] > {Enkele varianten van het groot octaaf} > {\startcombinatie[2*1] > {\kortoctaaf}{kort octaaf} > {\gebrokenoctaaf}{gebroken octaaf} > \stopcombinatie} > > I want to have the two figures numbered as seperate, independent > figures, but when using a combination, the whole combination is > treated as one figure and gets only one number and one label. > > XXXX XXXX > X X X X > XXXX XXXX > > fig.n fig.n+1 > > I've consulted the manuals and searched the list archives, but I have > not found a solution. > > tnx in advance, > > Peter van Kranenburg > > p.s. I've already sent this message to the list, thursday, but it > didn't show up in my inbox. So this is another try. > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: how to place figures next to each other 2005-03-20 22:35 ` Matthias Weber @ 2005-03-21 22:26 ` Peter 0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Peter @ 2005-03-21 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw) Matthias Weber wrote: > The best I can get is > > \starttext > \useexternalfigure[myfigure][filename][width=1in] > \placetable[here][tab:2figures]{none} > [...] Thanks for the try. I've also tried columns. But the floating mechanism and columns/tables doesn't cooperate very well... Maybe there is a way to increment the figure counter by hand? And to add a label for the added figurenumber? Then I can make the [2*1]-combination appear as two independent figures. the only problem then is the caption of the combination. I don't want that caption, and I don't want the space that is occupied by that caption. greetings Peter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-18 9:05 ` Hans Hagen 2005-03-18 21:08 ` Paul Tremblay 2005-03-19 1:01 ` hyphenation not working Paul Tremblay @ 2005-03-20 12:18 ` Christopher Creutzig 2 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Christopher Creutzig @ 2005-03-20 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen wrote: >> I do have a file called hyphen.tex. On Hans' suggestion, I copied this >> to ushyph1.tex and ushyph2.tex. That didn't help. I also changed my >> cont-usr.tex file, changing all lines that had ushyp* to hyphen. This >> also didn't work. > > > did you run mktexlsr ? And in case that's unexpected: You need to run texexec --make, since patterns are loaded at format generation. Christopher ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: hyphenation not working 2005-03-18 6:05 hyphenation not working Paul Tremblay 2005-03-18 9:05 ` Hans Hagen @ 2005-03-18 9:26 ` Taco Hoekwater 1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-03-18 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw) See also this threade: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20041228.225433.b0bd0faf.html This is becoming a FAQ, unfortunately. Greetings, Taco Paul Tremblay wrote: > Has anyone else had problems with hyphenation? I have a brand new > version of ConTeXt, and cannot get one of its main features, hyphenation, > to work. > > I looked at the documentation, specifically the file called hypenation > patterns. According to this, I should be able to invoke a took called > ctxtools, or at least a tool called texmfstart ctxtools. Neither tool > exists with my distribution. > > I do have a file called hyphen.tex. On Hans' suggestion, I copied this > to ushyph1.tex and ushyph2.tex. That didn't help. I also changed my cont-usr.tex file, changing all lines that had ushyp* to hyphen. This also didn't work. > > I am at a loss, and I consider hyphenation pretty important. How do I > proceed from here? > > Thanks > > Paul > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
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