From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15520 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Patrick Gundlach" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt-Wiki Date: 23 Jun 2004 17:09:24 +0200 Organization: chaos Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <6.1.1.1.2.20040601200608.01eb9640@server-1> <20040622161300.GA5608@swordfish> <34371.80.58.5.46.1087924408.squirrel@bitmail.bitmailer.com> <0D45B077-C4DA-11D8-972E-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> <40D944A4.5030402@gmx.de> <43DEE2EE-C510-11D8-972E-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1088003670 20669 80.91.224.253 (23 Jun 2004 15:14:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Wed Jun 23 17:14:21 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bd9S9-00044q-00 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:14:21 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0F310B2D; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:14:17 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from lilly.ping.de (lilly.ping.de [83.97.42.2]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 6144510ACC for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:09:20 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: (qmail 19668 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2004 15:09:01 -0000 Original-Received: (ofmipd 83.97.40.224); 23 Jun 2004 15:08:39 -0000 Original-Received: from schnee.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by schnee.local (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5NF9Peu003508 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:09:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (from pg@localhost) by schnee.local (8.12.9/8.12.2/Submit) id i5NF9PL7003507; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:09:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Authentication-Warning: schnee.local: pg set sender to patrick@gundla.ch using -f X-Lieblings-Musik: the_capricorns In-Reply-To: <43DEE2EE-C510-11D8-972E-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> (Maurice Diamantin's message of "Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:24:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15520 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15520 Hi, > But as Open Source, I also (by mistake) mean a SourceForge projet > from which: > - an **unique** starting URL. www.pragma-ade.com > - dated version would be available, http://www.pragma-ade.com/download.htm > - current official documentation (I didn't mean > "documentationsssssssssss") Well, ConTeXt is too complicated to have all aspects in one book. > - access (via links) to to any other information (pragma, wiki, ...) http://www.pragma-ade.com/links.htm >>> - which/where is the reference documentation >>> (don't reply with some recursive answer!) >> >> Hmm, the problem is that the documentation is* notoriously outdated >> and incomplete. >> But I think the "ConTeXt - the manual" is rather good though >> incomplete. > Yes I agree that "ConTeXt - the manual" is **the** currently reference > manual. > As such, it should probably be a more or less maintained an uptodate > (but not as other said "uptodate" context documents :-) version. I agree with you there. The documentation should be updated a bit and put togehter. The uptodate manuals should go into different manuals and vanish, since they are not uptodate anymore (perhaps they are uptodate, but the date is behind). [...] Talking about a sourceforge project. I guess that Hans would still keep his ConTeXt distribution private (at PRAGMA ADE [btw. what is the correct way to write your company's name?]) and not care very much about any other SF project (as long as it does not get into his way), but would be very reluctant giving support for the different project. Once an tool is necessary for your everyday work, it is a bad thing to give it out of your control. If you need a SF project, make one (actually, there is one as I have been told). But keep in mind that you should follow the license restrictions in mreadme.pdf *and* you have to do all by yourself, since most people here (I guess) are happy the way it is now. Patrick -- texshow-web: http://members.ping.de:8061 ConTeXt wiki: http://members.ping.de:8062