* Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
@ 2011-03-25 11:51 Nicola
2011-03-25 11:58 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-25 12:27 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Nicola @ 2011-03-25 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
a document of mine (compiled with the latest mkiv beta) contains the
following setup:
\usetypescript[times][ec]
\setupbodyfont[times,10pt]
\defineconversion[onlyasterisks][*,*,*,*,*]
\setupnote[footnote][numberconversion=onlyasterisks,bodyfont=9pt]
\setupcaptions[inbetween={\blank[6pt]},width=max,align=middle,style=bold,
suffix={.}]
I have some trouble with the following, however:
1) The asterisks in the footnotes appear in the margin. I can I align
the * below the main text?
2) How can I make the text in the captions at 9pt?
I have checked in the wiki and in the ConTeXt manual, but I cannot do
the above.
Besides, is the used font Times New Roman (sorry for the question, but I
do not have Acrobat installed right now, and I do not know how to check
the font in the pdf file)? If not, how can I use Times New Roman with
mkiv?
Thanks in advance,
Nicola
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 11:51 Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions Nicola
@ 2011-03-25 11:58 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-25 12:16 ` Nicola
2011-03-25 12:27 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-03-25 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote:
> Besides, is the used font Times New Roman (sorry for the question, but I
> do not have Acrobat installed right now, and I do not know how to check
> the font in the pdf file)? If not, how can I use Times New Roman with
> mkiv?
with latest minimals
%%test.tex
\usetypescript[times][ec]
\setupbodyfont[times,10pt]
\defineconversion[onlyasterisks][*,*,*,*,*]
\setupnote[footnote][numberconversion=onlyasterisks,bodyfont=9pt]
\setupcaptions[inbetween={\blank[6pt]},width=max,align=middle,style=bold,
suffix={.}]
\starttext \input knuth\stoptext
# pdffonts test.pdf
name type emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
BFWBPQ+TeXGyreTermes-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 18 0
Also AdobeReader can show the document fonts.
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 11:58 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-03-25 12:16 ` Nicola
2011-03-25 12:20 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-25 15:57 ` mathew
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From: Nicola @ 2011-03-25 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
In article
<AANLkTi=d63VzhDzAy27YOLLyyp-AXrHAUsA4mwx-hYYX@mail.gmail.com>,
luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> # pdffonts test.pdf
That's great! I didn't know about pdffonts… Well, I don't know much about fonts in general :)
So, now that's quite complicated (for me). This is what I get:
name type emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
MAYMBF+TeXGyreTermes-Bold CID Type 0C yes yes yes 18 0
YYCTGW+TeXGyreTermes-Italic CID Type 0C yes yes yes 19 0
MRLZOQ+TeXGyreTermes-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 20 0
PJSRME+txsy Type 1 yes yes no 29 0
ADYQWN+TeXGyreTermes-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 30 0
JHYYBD+TeXGyreTermes-Italic Type 1 yes yes no 31 0
SDGCFO+rtxmi Type 1 yes yes no 32 0
GOISLI+TeXGyreTermes-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 33 0
GQGRIV+LMMono10-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 37 0
VKFEDD+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 44 0
WTQJQL+Times-Roman TrueType yes yes no 45 0
WWKUXC+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 64 0
GFUUDN+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 79 0
YTRUAX+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 98 0
UBKRGH+TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic CID Type 0C yes yes yes 113 0
EZQBWI+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 120 0
YTUNRR+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 135 0
HMXOTK+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 150 0
FQSXLW+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 171 0
UYMOQM+AppleSymbols TrueType yes yes yes 172 0
KKTZRF+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 193 0
ZTVNCA+Times-Roman TrueType yes yes no 213 0
LWXRQW+TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType yes yes no 214 0
I guess Apple Symbols and txsy are there because of mathematical symbols,
but what about Termes and Times-Roman? Also, is that TimesNewRomanPSMT the “official” Times New Roman,
or a “quasi”-Times? I ask because my publisher seems to have strict font requirements,
and has asked me to check that my paper be entirely in Times New Roman…
Nicola
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 12:16 ` Nicola
@ 2011-03-25 12:20 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-25 15:57 ` mathew
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-03-25 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess Apple Symbols and txsy are there because of mathematical symbols,
> but what about Termes and Times-Roman? Also, is that TimesNewRomanPSMT the “official” Times New Roman,
> or a “quasi”-Times? I ask because my publisher seems to have strict font requirements,
> and has asked me to check that my paper be entirely in Times New Roman…
About termes:
http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/termes
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 11:51 Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions Nicola
2011-03-25 11:58 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-03-25 12:27 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-03-25 16:25 ` Nicola
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-03-25 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 25.03.2011 um 12:51 schrieb Nicola:
> Hi,
> a document of mine (compiled with the latest mkiv beta) contains the
> following setup:
>
> \usetypescript[times][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[times,10pt]
\setupbodyfont is enough, you don’t need \usetypescript here and font encoding (i.e. “ec”) are gone.
Wolfgang
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 12:16 ` Nicola
2011-03-25 12:20 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-03-25 15:57 ` mathew
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From: mathew @ 2011-03-25 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 07:16, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote:
>I ask because my publisher seems to have strict font requirements,
> and has asked me to check that my paper be entirely in Times New Roman…
Your best bet, then, is to download the MS TT core fonts package.
http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/
That installs 'real' Times New Roman, which you can then use in the usual way.
mathew
[ I'm assuming you're using Linux, because if you're using Windows or
a Mac you should already have Times New Roman installed. ]
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 12:27 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-03-25 16:25 ` Nicola
2011-03-25 16:32 ` Nicola
2011-03-25 23:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Nicola @ 2011-03-25 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
In article <EC21325A-9931-40ED-AC3C-3BA3333B873B@googlemail.com>,
Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am 25.03.2011 um 12:51 schrieb Nicola:
>
> > Hi,
> > a document of mine (compiled with the latest mkiv beta) contains the
> > following setup:
> >
> > \usetypescript[times][ec]
> > \setupbodyfont[times,10pt]
>
> \setupbodyfont is enough, you don’t need \usetypescript here and font
> encoding (i.e. “ec”) are gone.
Ok. Please bear with me, understanding of font handling mechanisms is still
beyond my reach. This is the best I was able to do so far to use Times New Roman:
\starttypescript [serif] [myfont]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [name:timesnewroman]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [name:timesnewromanbold]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [name:timesnewromanitalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [name:timesnewromanitalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [name:timesnewromanbolditalic]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [myfont] [rm] [serif] [myfont]
\definetypeface [myfont] [mm] [math] [times]
\setupbodyfont[myfont,rm,10pt]
\definefont[FigureCaptionStyle][SerifBold at 9pt]
\setupcaptions[inbetween={\blank[6pt]},width=max,align=middle,style=FigureCaption
Style,suffix={.}]
Is this the mkiv way?
Nicola
ps: for aligning footnote symbols, I have no clue yet.
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 16:25 ` Nicola
@ 2011-03-25 16:32 ` Nicola
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From: Nicola @ 2011-03-25 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In article <nvitacolonna-165382.17254325032011@news.gmane.org>,
Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote:
> ps: for aligning footnote symbols, I have no clue yet.
Never mind, just stumbled upon \setupnotedefinition in the wiki.
Nicola
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 16:25 ` Nicola
2011-03-25 16:32 ` Nicola
@ 2011-03-25 23:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-03-26 11:13 ` Nicola
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-03-25 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 25.03.2011 um 17:25 schrieb Nicola:
> Ok. Please bear with me, understanding of font handling mechanisms is still
> beyond my reach. This is the best I was able to do so far to use Times New Roman:
Mac:
\usetypescriptfile[type-mac]
\setupbodyfont[timesnewroman]
\starttext
Times New Roman
\stoptext
Windows:
\usetypescriptfile[type-win]
\setupbodyfont[times]
\starttext
Times New Roman
\stoptext
Other (with the ms core fonts package Mathew mentioned):
\setupbodyfont[mscore]
\starttext
Times New Roman
\stoptext
All:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Times New Roman]
\starttext
Times New Roman
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-25 23:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-03-26 11:13 ` Nicola
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From: Nicola @ 2011-03-26 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In article <113278BD-DE8C-4F2A-9311-2C972D0F49D9@googlemail.com>,
Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Mac:
>
> \usetypescriptfile[type-mac]
>
> \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman]
>
> All:
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>
> \setmainfont[Times New Roman]
That's was I had tried in the first place. But how can I change the math font
then?
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-26 11:13 ` Nicola
@ 2011-03-26 11:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-03-26 12:11 ` Nicola
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-03-26 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 26.03.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Nicola:
> In article <113278BD-DE8C-4F2A-9311-2C972D0F49D9@googlemail.com>,
> Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>>
>> \setmainfont[Times New Roman]
>
> That's was I had tried in the first place. But how can I change the math font
> then?
\setmathfont[times]
Wolfgang
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* Re: Help with Times font, footnote symbols and captions
2011-03-26 11:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-03-26 12:11 ` Nicola
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From: Nicola @ 2011-03-26 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In article <76D2E755-4B9C-44C0-9A78-45AB357BF0DC@googlemail.com>,
Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am 26.03.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Nicola:
>
> > In article <113278BD-DE8C-4F2A-9311-2C972D0F49D9@googlemail.com>,
> > Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> >>
> >> \setmainfont[Times New Roman]
> >
> > That's was I had tried in the first place. But how can I change the math
> > font
> > then?
>
> \setmathfont[times]
Embarassingly easy :) But, maybe, that should be mentioned in simplefonts README
and/or added to the wiki.
Thanks to all who replied: my document is now fine and I've learned a bunch of
stuff.
Nicola
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