* text flowing around images
@ 2019-02-04 10:10 Henning Hraban Ramm
2019-02-05 20:38 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-02-04 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Ahoi,
in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side placement in single text column only).
I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can change that.
I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
I’d be thankful for hints.
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: text flowing around images
2019-02-04 10:10 text flowing around images Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2019-02-05 20:38 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2019-02-05 20:48 ` Alan Braslau
2019-02-05 20:51 ` Henri Menke
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-02-05 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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No hints?
If it’s not possible, I must redo the whole layout in InDesign. I’d like to avoid that (footnotes!).
Best, Hraban
Am 2019-02-04 um 11:10 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> Ahoi,
>
> in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side placement in single text column only).
> I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can change that.
>
> I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
> I’d be thankful for hints.
>
> Greetlings, Hraban
> ---
> https://www.fiee.net
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de
> GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD
>
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* Re: text flowing around images
2019-02-05 20:38 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2019-02-05 20:48 ` Alan Braslau
2019-02-05 20:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2019-02-05 20:56 ` Alan Braslau
2019-02-05 20:51 ` Henri Menke
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From: Alan Braslau @ 2019-02-05 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Henning Hraban Ramm; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
\parshape
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 21:38:29 +0100
Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> No hints?
>
> If it’s not possible, I must redo the whole layout in InDesign. I’d like to avoid that (footnotes!).
>
> Best, Hraban
>
> Am 2019-02-04 um 11:10 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>
> > Ahoi,
> >
> > in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side placement in single text column only).
> > I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can change that.
> >
> > I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
> > I’d be thankful for hints.
> >
> > Greetlings, Hraban
> > ---
> > https://www.fiee.net
> > http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> > https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de
> > GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
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* Re: text flowing around images
2019-02-05 20:48 ` Alan Braslau
@ 2019-02-05 20:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2019-02-05 23:19 ` Aditya Mahajan
2019-02-05 20:56 ` Alan Braslau
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2019-02-05 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Alan Braslau
The metafun manual should have a few examples.
Wolfgang
Alan Braslau schrieb am 05.02.19 um 21:48:
> \parshape
>
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 21:38:29 +0100
> Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>
>> No hints?
>>
>> If it’s not possible, I must redo the whole layout in InDesign. I’d like to avoid that (footnotes!).
>>
>> Best, Hraban
>>
>> Am 2019-02-04 um 11:10 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>>
>>> Ahoi,
>>>
>>> in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side placement in single text column only).
>>> I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can change that.
>>>
>>> I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
>>> I’d be thankful for hints.
>>>
>>> Greetlings, Hraban
>>> ---
>>> https://www.fiee.net
>>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
>>> https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de
>>> GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>>>
>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
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* Re: text flowing around images
2019-02-05 20:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2019-02-05 23:19 ` Aditya Mahajan
2019-02-06 9:03 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2019-02-05 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2019, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> Am 2019-02-04 um 11:10 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>>>
>>>> Ahoi,
>>>>
>>>> in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my
> layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side
> placement in single text column only).
>>>> I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can
> change that.
>>>>
>>>> I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around
> shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
>>>> I’d be thankful for hints.
>>>>
> The metafun manual should have a few examples.
>
See https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/32308/323 which is based on an example
in the metafun manual.
Aditya
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* Re: text flowing around images
2019-02-05 23:19 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2019-02-06 9:03 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-02-06 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2019-02-06 um 00:19 schrieb Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>>>> Am 2019-02-04 um 11:10 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> Ahoi,
>>>>>
>>>>> in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my
>> layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side placement in single text column only).
>>>>> I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can
>> change that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around
>> shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
>>>>> I’d be thankful for hints.
>>>>>
>> The metafun manual should have a few examples.
>>
> See https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/32308/323 which is based on an example in the metafun manual.
Thank you all!
I guess I can reduce the flow cases to <10 and use \parshape directly; thinking in lines looks a bit easier than the MetaPost way.
Calculating the MP path from the TIFF alpha channel would be interesting, but is way above my head.
I guess it would work like:
* preprocessing:
- find the outer contour of the image (after some threshold value of color value or alpha channel)
- simplify and vectorize that (I remember there were different OS tools/libraries used with FontForge or Inkscape)
- convert this outline (SVG or EPS I guess) into MP
* within the ConTeXt run:
- place the (scaled) picture
- preliminary page/paragraph breaking to find where there might be overlaps
- calculate the fitting paragraph shape (rectangle minus overlapping part of the scaled outline)
- probably some new line/paragraph breaking?
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: text flowing around images
2019-02-05 20:48 ` Alan Braslau
2019-02-05 20:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2019-02-05 20:56 ` Alan Braslau
2019-02-05 21:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan Braslau @ 2019-02-05 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Henning Hraban Ramm; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
p.101 of the TeXbook ...
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 13:48:14 -0700
Alan Braslau <braslau.list@comcast.net> wrote:
> \parshape
>
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 21:38:29 +0100
> Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>
> > No hints?
> >
> > If it’s not possible, I must redo the whole layout in InDesign. I’d like to avoid that (footnotes!).
> >
> > Best, Hraban
> >
> > Am 2019-02-04 um 11:10 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> >
> > > Ahoi,
> > >
> > > in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side placement in single text column only).
> > > I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can change that.
> > >
> > > I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
> > > I’d be thankful for hints.
> > >
> > > Greetlings, Hraban
> > > ---
> > > https://www.fiee.net
> > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> > > https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de
> > > GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD
> > >
> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________
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> > >
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* Re: text flowing around images
2019-02-05 20:38 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2019-02-05 20:48 ` Alan Braslau
@ 2019-02-05 20:51 ` Henri Menke
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From: Henri Menke @ 2019-02-05 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
For LaTeX there is a tool called fig2sty which can take an XFig figure
and transform it into a LaTeX sty file. Maybe you could adapt it to
ConTeXt.
https://www.ctan.org/pkg/fig2sty
On 6/02/19 9:38 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> No hints?
>
> If it’s not possible, I must redo the whole layout in InDesign. I’d like to avoid that (footnotes!).
>
> Best, Hraban
>
> Am 2019-02-04 um 11:10 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>
>> Ahoi,
>>
>> in my current project I must include a bunch of illustrations in my layout, and the text should flow around their irregular shapes (side placement in single text column only).
>> I got the pictures as TIFFs with alpha channel, but of course I can change that.
>>
>> I’m quite sure I remember that it was possible to let text flow around shapes somehow, but I can’t find documentation or a sample.
>> I’d be thankful for hints.
>>
>> Greetlings, Hraban
>> ---
>> https://www.fiee.net
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
>> https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de
>> GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>>
>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
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