Framed text split over multiple pages

Framed text split over multiple pages

[Romain Diss]

Hi,

Is there a simple way to split a large \startframedtext environment over
multiple pages. It doesn't work out of the box and I didn't find any
option make it work in the wiki nor in the documentation I read.

Thanks.

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Re: Framed text split over multiple pages

[Aditya Mahajan]

> Is there a simple way to split a large \startframedtext environment over
> multiple pages. It doesn't work out of the box and I didn't find any
> option make it work in the wiki nor in the documentation I read.

Use backgrounds or textbackgrounds.

Aditya
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Re: Background under bibliography (like in mkiv-publications.pdf)

[Romain Diss]

Le 13/03/2019, Aditya Mahajan a �crit
> > Is there a simple way to split a large \startframedtext environment over
> > multiple pages. It doesn't work out of the box and I didn't find any
> > option make it work in the wiki nor in the documentation I read.
> 
> Use backgrounds or textbackgrounds.
Thank you but I still can't achieve what I want to do whith this
command.

I try to make something similar to the frames in the
"mkiv-publications.pdf" manual (page 6 or 22 for a bibliography for
examples).
I suppose Hans Hagen made use of metafun to do it but I encounter some
problems with 'textbackgrounds'.

In this minimal example, the frame doesn't appear (or if i set
[frame=on,leftframe=off] all the frame is rendered) and the left and
right offsets are not took into account.

% test-bcknd.tex
\usebtxdataset[biblio.bib]

\setupbtxrendering
    [before={\startbiblio},
    after={\stopbiblio}]

% Arri�re-plan biblio
\definetextbackground[biblio]
    [location=paragraph,
    background=color,
    backgroundcolor=green,
    %backgroundoffset=2em,
    leftoffset=1em,
    rightoffset=1em,
    topoffset=1.5em,
    bottomoffset=1em,
    frame=off,
    leftframe=on,
    rulethickness=.1em,
    framecolor=red]

\startdocument
    \startchapter[title=A chapter]
        \input knuth \cite[knuth]\blank
        \input ward \cite[ward]\blank
        \placelistofpublications[criterium=chapter]
    \stopchapter

\stopdocument
% end


% biblio.bib
@book{knuth,
    title = "Title",
    author = "Knuth",
    publisher = "Publisher",
    year = "2019",
}
@book{ward,
    title = "Title",
    author = "Ward",
    publisher = "Publisher",
    year = "2019",
}
% end

Any suggestions?

Thank you.


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Re: Background under bibliography (like in mkiv-publications.pdf)

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, Romain Diss wrote:

> Le 13/03/2019, Aditya Mahajan a �crit
>> > Is there a simple way to split a large \startframedtext environment over
>> > multiple pages. It doesn't work out of the box and I didn't find any
>> > option make it work in the wiki nor in the documentation I read.
>> 
>> Use backgrounds or textbackgrounds.
> Thank you but I still can't achieve what I want to do whith this
> command.
>
> I try to make something similar to the frames in the
> "mkiv-publications.pdf" manual (page 6 or 22 for a bibliography for
> examples).
> I suppose Hans Hagen made use of metafun to do it but I encounter some
> problems with 'textbackgrounds'.
>
> In this minimal example, the frame doesn't appear (or if i set
> [frame=on,leftframe=off] all the frame is rendered) and the left and
> right offsets are not took into account.

textbackground uses metapost for ALL backgrounds and the default metapost 
code to draw the background (draw_multi_pars, defined in mp-abck.mkiv) 
doesn't handle individual frames. So, you have to write your own metapost 
code to draw the side bar.

Another option for simple backgrounds is to use `\definebackground` 
instead of `definetextbackground`. The background mechanism doesn't have 
too many options, but does honor leftframe and rightframe by default.

Aditya

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Re: Background under bibliography (like in mkiv-publications.pdf)

[Alan Braslau]

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:15:10 -0400 (EDT)
Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, Romain Diss wrote:
> 
> > Le 13/03/2019, Aditya Mahajan a �crit  
> >> > Is there a simple way to split a large \startframedtext environment over
> >> > multiple pages. It doesn't work out of the box and I didn't find any
> >> > option make it work in the wiki nor in the documentation I read.  
> >> 
> >> Use backgrounds or textbackgrounds.  
> > Thank you but I still can't achieve what I want to do whith this
> > command.
> >
> > I try to make something similar to the frames in the
> > "mkiv-publications.pdf" manual (page 6 or 22 for a bibliography for
> > examples).
> > I suppose Hans Hagen made use of metafun to do it but I encounter some
> > problems with 'textbackgrounds'.
> >
> > In this minimal example, the frame doesn't appear (or if i set
> > [frame=on,leftframe=off] all the frame is rendered) and the left and
> > right offsets are not took into account.  
> 
> textbackground uses metapost for ALL backgrounds and the default metapost 
> code to draw the background (draw_multi_pars, defined in mp-abck.mkiv) 
> doesn't handle individual frames. So, you have to write your own metapost 
> code to draw the side bar.
> 
> Another option for simple backgrounds is to use `\definebackground` 
> instead of `definetextbackground`. The background mechanism doesn't have 
> too many options, but does honor leftframe and rightframe by default.
> 
> Aditya

You can look under
doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-style.tex
to see how it is done.

Alan
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Re: Background under bibliography (like in mkiv-publications.pdf)

[Romain Diss]

Le 18/03/2019, Alan Braslau a �crit
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:15:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, Romain Diss wrote:
> > 
> > > Le 13/03/2019, Aditya Mahajan a �crit  
> > >> > Is there a simple way to split a large \startframedtext environment over
> > >> > multiple pages. It doesn't work out of the box and I didn't find any
> > >> > option make it work in the wiki nor in the documentation I read.  
> > >> 
> > >> Use backgrounds or textbackgrounds.  
> > > Thank you but I still can't achieve what I want to do whith this
> > > command.
> > >
> > > I try to make something similar to the frames in the
> > > "mkiv-publications.pdf" manual (page 6 or 22 for a bibliography for
> > > examples).
> > > I suppose Hans Hagen made use of metafun to do it but I encounter some
> > > problems with 'textbackgrounds'.
> > >
> > > In this minimal example, the frame doesn't appear (or if i set
> > > [frame=on,leftframe=off] all the frame is rendered) and the left and
> > > right offsets are not took into account.  
> > 
> > textbackground uses metapost for ALL backgrounds and the default metapost 
> > code to draw the background (draw_multi_pars, defined in mp-abck.mkiv) 
> > doesn't handle individual frames. So, you have to write your own metapost 
> > code to draw the side bar.
> > 
> > Another option for simple backgrounds is to use `\definebackground` 
> > instead of `definetextbackground`. The background mechanism doesn't have 
> > too many options, but does honor leftframe and rightframe by default.
> > 
> > Aditya
> 
> You can look under
> doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-style.tex
> to see how it is done.
All these source files where here, next to me, all this time and I didn't
know... Thank you very much!

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Re: Background under bibliography (like in mkiv-publications.pdf)

[Romain Diss]

Le 18/03/2019, Aditya Mahajan a �crit
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, Romain Diss wrote:
> 
> > Le 13/03/2019, Aditya Mahajan a �crit
> > > > Is there a simple way to split a large \startframedtext environment over
> > > > multiple pages. It doesn't work out of the box and I didn't find any
> > > > option make it work in the wiki nor in the documentation I read.
> > > 
> > > Use backgrounds or textbackgrounds.
> > Thank you but I still can't achieve what I want to do whith this
> > command.
> > 
> > I try to make something similar to the frames in the
> > "mkiv-publications.pdf" manual (page 6 or 22 for a bibliography for
> > examples).
> > I suppose Hans Hagen made use of metafun to do it but I encounter some
> > problems with 'textbackgrounds'.
> > 
> > In this minimal example, the frame doesn't appear (or if i set
> > [frame=on,leftframe=off] all the frame is rendered) and the left and
> > right offsets are not took into account.
> 
> textbackground uses metapost for ALL backgrounds and the default metapost
> code to draw the background (draw_multi_pars, defined in mp-abck.mkiv)
> doesn't handle individual frames. So, you have to write your own metapost
> code to draw the side bar.
> 
> Another option for simple backgrounds is to use `\definebackground` instead
> of `definetextbackground`. The background mechanism doesn't have too many
> options, but does honor leftframe and rightframe by default.

It will take some time to understand everything in "mp-abck.mpiv" but it
will sure be very interesting.

Thank you.

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Re: Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Kip Warner]

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On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 18:30 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Are you using MkII or MkIV? Is metapost working?
> 
> \starttext
> \startMPcode
> draw fullcircle scaled 3cm ;
> \stopMPcode
> \stoptext

$ context --version
...
mtx-context     | current version: 2011.06.27 23:49

It errors with that code you gave me. I can't seem to find the specific
error message as ConTeXt dumps tonnes and tonnes of pages of console
output that it's probably buried somewhere in.

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Re: Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Kip Warner wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 23:58 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TextBackground
>
> Thanks Hans. I saw it already, but I couldn't get the frame to appear
> around the text.
>
> Can you show me the textbackground equivalent that has page breaks to
> the following that I have been using?

Are you using MkII or MkIV? Is metapost working?

\starttext
\startMPcode
draw fullcircle scaled 3cm ;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext

Aditya
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Re: Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Kip Warner]

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On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 23:58 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TextBackground

Thanks Hans. I saw it already, but I couldn't get the frame to appear
around the text.

Can you show me the textbackground equivalent that has page breaks to
the following that I have been using?

\definestartstop
    [SomeFramedText]
    [before={
        \crlf
        \setupbackground[frame=on,
                         before=\blank,
                         after=\blank,
                         corner=round,
                         topoffset=0.5cm,
                         leftoffset=0.5cm,
                         rightoffset=0.5cm,
                         bottomoffset=0.5cm]
        \startbackground
            },
     after={
        \stopbackground
        \crlf
           },
     commands={\setupalign[yes]},
     style=italic]

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Re: Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Hans Hagen]

On 5-10-2011 23:52, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 20:54 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> Can you explain what you mean by inline pagebreak?
>>
>> Aditya
>
> Hey Aditya. I mean that I would like framed text to be split over
> multiple pages whenever possible.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TextBackground

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Re: Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Kip Warner]

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On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 20:54 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Can you explain what you mean by inline pagebreak?
> 
> Aditya

Hey Aditya. I mean that I would like framed text to be split over
multiple pages whenever possible.

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Re: Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Hans Hagen]

On 5-10-2011 02:20, Kip Warner wrote:
> Hey list,
>
> I'd like my framed text to be split over multiple pages rather than
> leaving a big empty page before it starts so that it can fill its own
> whole page when large enough.

you can search for 'textbackground' (which is another mechanism)

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Re: Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Kip Warner wrote:

> Hey list,
>
> I'd like my framed text to be split over multiple pages rather than
> leaving a big empty page before it starts so that it can fill its own
> whole page when large enough.
>
> This is what I am using and works fine, with the exception of no inline
> page breaks:

Can you explain what you mean by inline pagebreak?

Aditya
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Framed Text Split Over Multiple Pages

[Kip Warner]

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Hey list,

I'd like my framed text to be split over multiple pages rather than
leaving a big empty page before it starts so that it can fill its own
whole page when large enough.

This is what I am using and works fine, with the exception of no inline
page breaks:

\definestartstop
    [SubDocument]
    [before={
        \crlf
        \setupbackground[frame=on,
                         before=\blank,
                         after=\blank,
                         corner=round,
                         topoffset=0.5cm,
                         leftoffset=0.5cm,
                         rightoffset=0.5cm,
                         bottomoffset=0.5cm]
        \startbackground
            },
     after={
        \stopbackground
        \crlf
           },
     commands={\setupalign[yes]},
     style=italic]

Then used as such:

\startSubDocument
...
\stopSubDocument

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