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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---830189494-1943048564-1583426164=:669703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 5 Mar 2020, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 3/4/2020 11:44 PM, Weber, Matthias wrote: >> Dear List, >>=20 >> \starttext >> \startformula >> \left(f\right)'' =3D f'' >> \stopformula >> \stoptext >>=20 >> has the second apostrophe set too low. This is in MKIV on ConTeXt live a= s=20 > well as in my slightly older version. >> What is the =E2=80=9Cright=E2=80=9D way to typeset a second derivative? > you have to turn on > > \setupmathematics > [collapsing=3D3] > > but it has the side effect of also collapsing more: > > $x'' >=3D 10$ > > (which is why the mechanism is currently turned off by default) > > i'll think about an option that only does some specific ones only > > (btw, i love tex but these primes are a bit painful due to th eorriginal= =20 > approach which has lead mixtures of (1) raised in the font and/or raised= =20 > in the engine, (2) them being superscripts but not really, (3) fonts=20 > therefore doing it inconsistently, (4) some parsing related to multiple= =20 > scripts, (5) double, tripple, etc primes being real unicode characters=20 > but spaced singles in traditional tex (which itself then introduces some= =20 > size juggling) ... i could proabbly write a few pages about it) So what's the best way to input them: using \prime, \prime\prime, etc.? 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