From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/107467 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Wiki - Proposal to update the Welcome page Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 22:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323329-1226556441-1590285991=:479097" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="42495"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (LNX 394 2020-01-19) Cc: Taco Hoekwater , Mojca Miklavec To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun May 24 04:06:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jcg2M-000Aye-5J for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:06:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDAA18447F; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:06:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DfcVAoTJ16P1; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91190184480; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8F5184477 for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:06:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nVEz_knG1TR1 for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:06:34 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Softfail (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=132.206.73.2; helo=orford.cim.mcgill.ca; envelope-from=adityam@umich.edu; receiver= Original-Received: from orford.cim.mcgill.ca (orford.cim.mcgill.ca [132.206.73.2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E04AD18445F for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:06:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from adi-thinkpad-2.local (198-84-255-218.cpe.teksavvy.com [198.84.255.218]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: adityam) by orford.cim.mcgill.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65B37F79F8; Sat, 23 May 2020 22:06:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.context:107467 Archived-At: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-1226556441-1590285991=:479097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 23 May 2020, Garulfo wrote: > >>> 1/ Concerning the Manuals Page >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 - As proposed, "obsolete banners" are added to thumbnails= =C2=A0 of the >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 oldest manuals. >> Looks good. A few minor comments: >> I haven't tested it, but the natural tables in context examples (in=20 >> Sec 3.6) should still work with latest versions. >> The "context rehab for amsmath addicts" should be in math (or=20 >> sciences) rather than tables. (This reminds me, I should update that=20 >> reference). > > Both corrections are made, thanks for your help. > > >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 - About providing zips of manuals per topics: maybe we cou= ld just >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 add a index.html in the distribution structure= , to provide the >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 user with a browsing system similar to the wik= i's one. >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 - If the admistrators wish, I can now replace the current = page. >> >> One concern that I have is how easy it is to navigate the page on the=20 >> phone. Currently, it does not really work on the phone. Is there some=20 >> way to make it more responsive? > > Thanks again, of primary importance. > > Should be far better now (quickly checked on two smartphones, one=20 > android and one ios) Thanks. Both pages look good on mobile now. I am okay with merging this wit= h the old manuals page. A small suggestion is that we could omit the table = of content on this page, as it is almost redundant in the new format. >>> 2/ After=C2=A0 the Manuals,=C2=A0 please find a proposal for the Welcom= e Page, >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 which is probably trickier >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page_TempProposal >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page (the current) >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 4 objectives : >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01/ do something more visual, reduce the amount = of text, >> Some of us prefer text. What was earlier a one step process for me (go= =20 >> to home page, search for keyword, go to page), is now a two step=20 >> process. But I agree that the new proposed layout is more friendly to=20 >> new users and support it. > > Yes, I suspected that the current version had advantages as a result of= =20 > past iterations. > > It would be interesting to identify the links that people want to access= =20 > in one step. We can list them in=20 > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Talk:Main_Page_TempProposal, and I will=20 > try to find ways to integrate them. Personally, I don't think that it is a big deal. >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02/ provide a fairly comprehensive overview with= less than 15 >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 topics, >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3/ but hold in one (big) scr= een, >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A04/ avoid redundancies on the Welcome Page, >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A05/ match both the Wiki's structure & the Manual= s' structure. >>> >>> Again, depending on=C2=A0 your feedbacks, I would be happy to improve i= t. >>> >>> It's built from scripts=C2=A0 =3D=3D>=C2=A0 not too hard now to reorder= , to adapt. >> You should also document your work flow somewhere (perhaps the talk=20 >> page of the same page or a dedicated page on the wiki). That is useful= =20 >> for long term maintainability of the wiki. > > Done: two zip files are uploaded, with link and brief description in the= =20 > Talk zone of the respective pages. Thanks. I am okay with changing the main page as well. But since this is the main p= age, let's wait for the other mods to chime in as well. 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