Converting footnotes to endnotes

Converting footnotes to endnotes

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

Dear gang,

Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms of  
endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them. Converting  
footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing it:

\setupnotation[footnote]
[way=bychapter]

% \setupnote[footnote]
% [way=bychapter]

\starttext
\startsection[title={},reference={}]
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\stopsection

\startsection[title={},reference={}]
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\stopsection

\startsubject[title={},reference={}]
\placenotes [footnote]
\stopsubject
\stoptext

What's the best way to convert the above to endnotes? Thank you in advance!

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512
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Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد schrieb am 03.06.2021 um 22:09:
> Dear gang,
>
> Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms 
> of endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them. 
> Converting footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing it:
>
> \setupnotation[footnote]
> [way=bychapter]

Do you use chapters?

> % \setupnote[footnote]
> % [way=bychapter]

\setupnote
   [footnote]
   [location=none]

Wolfgang

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Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 14:17:15 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster  
<wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> \setupnote
>   [footnote]
>   [location=none]

That did the trick; many thanks!

==============
\setupnote
   [footnote]
   [location=none]

\starttext
\startsection[title={},reference={}]
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\stopsection

\startsection[title={},reference={}]
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}
\stopsection

\startsubject[title={},reference={}]
\placenotes [footnote]
\stopsubject
\stoptext
==============

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512
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Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/3/2021 10:09 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
> Dear gang,
> 
> Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms of 
> endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them. Converting 
> footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing it:
Ah ... those publishers ... so you still need their demands? They should 
be glad that they get ready typeset books (I bet they often don't do a 
better job themselves, maybe aven introduce errors in the complex things 
you do). I thought they keyed it into word eventually anyway. End notes 
are definitely handier when they outsource I guess. Does that mean no 
more critical editions?

I admit that I do like endnotes more than footnotes when they for 
instance contain some more about the origin of some idea (or so) and 
suggest further reading ... (1) then i can read them all in one go (if I 
want) and (2) it's kind of a test if one can remember what it points 
back to.

Hans

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Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:06:31 -0600, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On 6/3/2021 10:09 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
>> Dear gang,
>>  Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms  
>> of endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them.  
>> Converting footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing  
>> it:
> Ah ... those publishers ... so you still need their demands? They should  
> be glad that they get ready typeset books (I bet they often don't do a  
> better job themselves, maybe aven introduce errors in the complex things  
> you do).

The main publishers are constituted by a multiplicity of bureaucracies  
where the left hand hardly knows what the right hand is doing. No amount  
of reasoning can get through to these people. And if you're working with  
an intermediate editor of a book, the situation is beyond hopeless.

> I thought they keyed it into word eventually anyway.

Yep. Luigi and I spent considerable time on a ConTeXt => Word workflow,  
but what was so far accomplished is not sufficiently general; it needs  
more work before it is useful enough to be released.

Unfortunately, not even ConTeXt'ers have expressed much interest,  
otherwise would suggest releasing it as a community project..

So I'm caught between academia (Word or, occasionally, LaTeX) and my  
strong preference for and investment in ConTeXt..

> End notes are definitely handier when they outsource I guess. Does that  
> mean no more critical editions?

Critical editions with apparatus converted to endnotes? Never!

> I admit that I do like endnotes more than footnotes when they for  
> instance contain some more about the origin of some idea (or so) and  
> suggest further reading ... (1) then i can read them all in one go (if I  
> want) and (2) it's kind of a test if one can remember what it points  
> back to.

Hm, this would make for an interesting discussion. I suppose if a set of  
endnotes (to a chapter, say, or a book) are written in a manner such that,  
in the spirit of your 1) they form a single whole, then sure, why not? But  
if that's the case, I would probably prefer an explicit, structured  
appendix to endnotes.

As for your 2), have always found going back or forth annoying - which  
takes me back to Bringhurst's rule..

-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512
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