From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/25054 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Idris Samawi Hamid" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Right-to-left typesetting in Farsi for Context. 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Clear:SA:0(0.0/100.0):. Processed in 10.279518 secs); 10 Jan 2006 15:25:49 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.10) by -v with SMTP; 10 Jan 2006 15:25:38 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9702 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2006 15:25:33 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO walayah1.wildblue.com) (70.41.4.165) by -v with SMTP; 10 Jan 2006 15:25:33 -0000 Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: <43C2EF5E.3070802@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.51 (Win32, build 7712) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:25054 Archived-At: On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:18:54 -0700, Hans Hagen wrote: > John R. Culleton wrote: > >> First I ask the question: is Context the right tool for rtl >> typesetting of e.g, Farsi? Second I would like a reference to the =20 >> pertinent Context manual >> or module for such typesetting. Finally I would like to know if there = =20 >> is a typescript extant for >> Farsi (Persian) wich I believe uses the Arabic alphabet with some >> modifications. > well, idris is using context for professional publications so rlt is =20 > possible ... In a recent thread with Mojca I give instructions to do basic utf-8 or =20 Latin-transcription Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu typesetting in ConTeXt using = =20 Aleph and the basic unicode fonts that came with Omega. The font is very = =20 basic, though. Much more advanced stuff is possible as well, using better= =20 fonts, and I am working on an advanced Arabic-script typesetting system =20 which, while still experimental, produces some of the nicest Arabic scrip= t =20 available-) (I can send you samples if you like off-list) No manuals, but go here to get a flavor of things: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d97ost/omega-example.html tex/context/base/m-gamma.tex tex/context/base/type-omg.tex You can use whatever font your client prefers, particularly if it does no= t =20 involve a lot of ligatures or vowels (most fonts used in Persian =20 typesetting are pretty basic in this regard, with the very important =20 exception of Nastaliq, which TeX/Aleph cannot do quite yet...) As soon as Giuseppe and Hans get in sync on the future direction of thing= s =20 in the internals of aleph and pdftex-) we should soon have Arabic-script = =20 typesetting approaching a par with the Latin. Hopefully the two projects = =20 will merge soon, and there has already been some movement in that =20 direction. In particular, the microtypography features of pdftex may =20 hopefully be extended to include, e.g., glyph substitution to get optimal= =20 paragraph justification (since Arabic script does not have hyphenation, =20 etc....) Best Idris --=20 Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/