* Right-to-left typesetting in Farsi for Context. @ 2006-01-09 21:43 John R. Culleton 2006-01-09 23:18 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: John R. Culleton @ 2006-01-09 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw) First I ask the question: is Context the right tool for rtl typesetting of e.g, Farsi? Second I would like a reference to the pertinent Context manual or module for such typesetting. Finally I would like to know if there is a typescript extant for Farsi (Persian) wich I believe uses the Arabic alphabet with some modifications. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Right-to-left typesetting in Farsi for Context. 2006-01-09 21:43 Right-to-left typesetting in Farsi for Context John R. Culleton @ 2006-01-09 23:18 ` Hans Hagen 2006-01-10 15:25 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2006-01-09 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw) John R. Culleton wrote: >First I ask the question: is Context the right tool for rtl >typesetting of e.g, Farsi? > >Second I would like a reference to the pertinent Context manual >or module for such typesetting. > >Finally I would like to know if there is a typescript extant for >Farsi (Persian) wich I believe uses the Arabic alphabet with some >modifications. > > well, idris is using context for professional publications so rlt is possible ... Hans ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Right-to-left typesetting in Farsi for Context. 2006-01-09 23:18 ` Hans Hagen @ 2006-01-10 15:25 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2006-01-10 15:36 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2006-01-11 16:43 ` John R. Culleton 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2006-01-10 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: gip.bilotta On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:18:54 -0700, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > John R. Culleton wrote: > >> First I ask the question: is Context the right tool for rtl >> typesetting of e.g, Farsi? Second I would like a reference to the >> pertinent Context manual >> or module for such typesetting. Finally I would like to know if there >> is a typescript extant for >> Farsi (Persian) wich I believe uses the Arabic alphabet with some >> modifications. > well, idris is using context for professional publications so rlt is > possible ... In a recent thread with Mojca I give instructions to do basic utf-8 or Latin-transcription Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu typesetting in ConTeXt using Aleph and the basic unicode fonts that came with Omega. The font is very basic, though. Much more advanced stuff is possible as well, using better fonts, and I am working on an advanced Arabic-script typesetting system which, while still experimental, produces some of the nicest Arabic script available-) (I can send you samples if you like off-list) No manuals, but go here to get a flavor of things: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d97ost/omega-example.html tex/context/base/m-gamma.tex tex/context/base/type-omg.tex You can use whatever font your client prefers, particularly if it does not involve a lot of ligatures or vowels (most fonts used in Persian typesetting are pretty basic in this regard, with the very important exception of Nastaliq, which TeX/Aleph cannot do quite yet...) As soon as Giuseppe and Hans get in sync on the future direction of things in the internals of aleph and pdftex-) we should soon have Arabic-script typesetting approaching a par with the Latin. Hopefully the two projects will merge soon, and there has already been some movement in that direction. In particular, the microtypography features of pdftex may hopefully be extended to include, e.g., glyph substitution to get optimal paragraph justification (since Arabic script does not have hyphenation, etc....) Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Right-to-left typesetting in Farsi for Context. 2006-01-10 15:25 ` Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2006-01-10 15:36 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2006-01-11 16:43 ` John R. Culleton 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2006-01-10 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:25:16 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote: > You can use whatever font your client prefers, particularly if it does > not involve a lot of ligatures or vowels (most fonts used in Persian > typesetting are pretty basic in this regard, with the very important > exception of Nastaliq, which TeX/Aleph cannot do quite yet...) Clarification: you can use heavy vowels and ligatures; it's just a lot of tedious work to set up... -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Right-to-left typesetting in Farsi for Context. 2006-01-10 15:25 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2006-01-10 15:36 ` Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2006-01-11 16:43 ` John R. Culleton 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: John R. Culleton @ 2006-01-11 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Idris Samawi Hamid, gip.bilotta On Tuesday 10 January 2006 10:25 am, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:18:54 -0700, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > > John R. Culleton wrote: > >> First I ask the question: is Context the right tool for rtl > >> typesetting of e.g, Farsi? Second I would like a reference to the > >> pertinent Context manual > >> or module for such typesetting. Finally I would like to know if there > >> is a typescript extant for > >> Farsi (Persian) wich I believe uses the Arabic alphabet with some > >> modifications. > > > > well, idris is using context for professional publications so rlt is > > possible ... > > In a recent thread with Mojca I give instructions to do basic utf-8 or > Latin-transcription Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu typesetting in ConTeXt using > Aleph and the basic unicode fonts that came with Omega. The font is very > basic, though. Much more advanced stuff is possible as well, using better > fonts, and I am working on an advanced Arabic-script typesetting system > which, while still experimental, produces some of the nicest Arabic script > available-) (I can send you samples if you like off-list) > > No manuals, but go here to get a flavor of things: > > http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d97ost/omega-example.html > tex/context/base/m-gamma.tex > tex/context/base/type-omg.tex > > You can use whatever font your client prefers, particularly if it does not > involve a lot of ligatures or vowels (most fonts used in Persian > typesetting are pretty basic in this regard, with the very important > exception of Nastaliq, which TeX/Aleph cannot do quite yet...) > > As soon as Giuseppe and Hans get in sync on the future direction of things > in the internals of aleph and pdftex-) we should soon have Arabic-script > typesetting approaching a par with the Latin. Hopefully the two projects > will merge soon, and there has already been some movement in that > direction. In particular, the microtypography features of pdftex may > hopefully be extended to include, e.g., glyph substitution to get optimal > paragraph justification (since Arabic script does not have hyphenation, > etc....) > > Best > Idris Thanks very much. The OP is not a client but another eager TeX novice. I relayed the information to him and he is busily acquainting himself with the tools you mentioned. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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