Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

[Mike Santy]

Hello, 

Ligatures seem to be missing when using the ConTeXt minimals distribution
(8/8/2007) with the times font (see below example).  Note that ligatures are
rendered correctly using live.contextgarden.net, so I assume that something
needs to be configured on my end.

Could someone please be kind enough to tell me what I should configure to
get proper ligatures for the times font in the minimals distribution?

Cheers,
Mike


\usetypescript[times][ec]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

\starttext

\input knuth
\blank
And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
\startformula
{a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0,
\qquad \int_0^{2\pi}\!\!\! \sin^2(x)dx =\pi,
\qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0,
\qquad \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}{1 \over k^2} = {\pi^2 \over 6}.
\stopformula
Some ligatures: ffi, ffl.

\stoptext

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Re: Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

[Hans Hagen]

Mike Santy wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> Ligatures seem to be missing when using the ConTeXt minimals distribution
> (8/8/2007) with the times font (see below example).  Note that ligatures are
> rendered correctly using live.contextgarden.net, so I assume that something
> needs to be configured on my end.
> 
> Could someone please be kind enough to tell me what I should configure to
> get proper ligatures for the times font in the minimals distribution?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> 
> \usetypescript[times][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \input knuth
> \blank
> And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
> \startformula
> {a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0,
> \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}\!\!\! \sin^2(x)dx =\pi,
> \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0,
> \qquad \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}{1 \over k^2} = {\pi^2 \over 6}.
> \stopformula
> Some ligatures: ffi, ffl.
> 
> \stoptext

in ec encoding there are no ligs in these fonts, in texnansi encoding 
only see fi and fl

tex gyre open type variants (in luatex) shows ffl and ffi


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Re: Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

[Santy, Michael]

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OK, fair enough.  What I don't understand is why do I see ligatures when compiling the following on live.contextgarden.net using pdftex:

\usetypescript[times][ec]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
\starttext
Some ligatures ffi, ffl, fi, fl
\stoptext

Cheers,
Mike

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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution
 
Mike Santy wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> Ligatures seem to be missing when using the ConTeXt minimals distribution
> (8/8/2007) with the times font (see below example).  Note that ligatures are
> rendered correctly using live.contextgarden.net, so I assume that something
> needs to be configured on my end.
> 
> Could someone please be kind enough to tell me what I should configure to
> get proper ligatures for the times font in the minimals distribution?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> 
> \usetypescript[times][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \input knuth
> \blank
> And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
> \startformula
> {a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0,
> \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}\!\!\! \sin^2(x)dx =\pi,
> \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0,
> \qquad \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}{1 \over k^2} = {\pi^2 \over 6}.
> \stopformula
> Some ligatures: ffi, ffl.
> 
> \stoptext

in ec encoding there are no ligs in these fonts, in texnansi encoding 
only see fi and fl

tex gyre open type variants (in luatex) shows ffl and ffi


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Re: Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

[luigi scarso]

On Dec 4, 2007 3:10 PM, Santy, Michael <Michael.Santy@dynetics.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> OK, fair enough.  What I don't understand is why do I see ligatures when
> compiling the following on live.contextgarden.net using pdftex:
>
>
>  \usetypescript[times][ec]
>  \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
>  \starttext
>  Some ligatures ffi, ffl, fi, fl
>  \stoptext
>
>  Cheers,
>  Mike
>
Maybe because gyre open type fonts are used.
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Re: Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Dec 4, 2007 1:19 AM, Mike Santy wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Ligatures seem to be missing when using the ConTeXt minimals distribution
> (8/8/2007) with the times font (see below example).  Note that ligatures are
> rendered correctly using live.contextgarden.net, so I assume that something
> needs to be configured on my end.
>
> Could someone please be kind enough to tell me what I should configure to
> get proper ligatures for the times font in the minimals distribution?
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
>
> \usetypescript[times][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input knuth
> \blank
> And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
> \startformula
> {a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0,
> \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}\!\!\! \sin^2(x)dx =\pi,
> \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0,
> \qquad \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}{1 \over k^2} = {\pi^2 \over 6}.
> \stopformula
> Some ligatures: ffi, ffl.
>
> \stoptext

Weird indeed ... The funny part is that I get two warnings (both of
them are my faut since I don't have those files):

pdfTeX warning: pdftex (file ec-urw-times.map): cannot open font map file
fonts           : using map file: ec-urw-helvetica

pdfTeX warning: pdftex (file ec-urw-helvetica.map): cannot open font map file
fonts           : using map file: original-youngryu-tx

and the output still looks fine (I get at least fi ligature, I'm not
sure about the others.).

It looks like a font problem to me, but not something that the user
could misconfigure. (Old or wrong font files perhaps? I really have no
clue.)

The garden doesn't use the standalone distribution (but a fraction of TeX Live).

Mojca

I will try to investigate, but I don't promise anything. A quick
workaround would be to use TeX Gyre instead.
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Re: Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi Mojca,

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:59:29 -0700, Mojca Miklavec  
<mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> I will try to investigate, but I don't promise anything. A quick
> workaround would be to use TeX Gyre instead.

Has a simple TeX-Gyre package for ConTeXt been released, or is TeX-Gyre  
now in the distribution?

The last time I tried I spent too much time downloading/installing from  
GUST, struggling to get it to work, only two fonts worked, etc...

I'm hoping/waiting for/till the mswincontext mkiv beta that will come with  
the approaching luatex beta but if there is any other info...

Best wishes
Idris

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Re: Ligatures in ConTeXt minimals distribution

[Santy, Michael]

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Thanks for the suggestion.  Don't worry about looking further into this issue, I'm just going to use the texnansi times encoding instead of the ec encoding.  I'm not going to spend to much time on fancy fonts for my documents until LuaTeX is ready for prime time.

Cheers,
Mike


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