From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/38902 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Idris Samawi Hamid" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ? Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:08:45 -0700 Organization: Colorado State University Message-ID: References: <2823285E-0472-4B8C-AA7C-F1A2F3EE07E8@st.estfiles.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201792173 5284 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2008 15:09:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:09:33 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jan 31 16:09:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JKb2v-0003u9-Qy for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:09:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78FE1FB7E; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:09:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32281-01-4; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:09:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B469B1FB6B; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:09:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9AD1FB6B for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:09:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32281-01-3 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:09:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 0434D1FB30 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:08:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 23787 invoked by uid 1006); 31 Jan 2008 15:08:58 -0000 Original-Received: from ishamid@colostate.edu by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 2.10059 secs); 31 Jan 2008 15:08:58 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.3) by -v with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 15:08:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9720 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 15:08:53 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO your-b27fb1c401) (75.104.84.217) by -v with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 15:08:53 -0000 In-Reply-To: <2823285E-0472-4B8C-AA7C-F1A2F3EE07E8@st.estfiles.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.24 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:38902 Archived-At: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:27:16 -0700, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > I have often seen (in arabic newpapers) the percentage sign set left > to the number "% 18". > Recently I read an article (http://sehstoerung.sonance.net/pdfs/ > TitusNemeth_dissertation.pdf) that calls this "... the incorrect > placement of the percentage sign". > > Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? It really depends on where you live. In Persian, 18% is common, among Arabs, %18. Both languages are left-to-right, but there is more than one convention for dealing with mathematical directionality. Some of these issues are still being worked about in the Arabic-script world. These subtlties need to be addressed for proper high-level handling of Arabic-script in ConTeXt/mkiv. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________