From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/28848 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Idris Samawi Hamid" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: arab (omega) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:38:37 -0600 Organization: Colorado State University Message-ID: References: <449C3A2F.6090708@wxs.nl> <449E4485.3080201@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151259208 29530 80.91.229.2 (25 Jun 2006 18:13:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "dev-orientaltex@ntg.nl" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Jun 25 20:13:16 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FuZ5b-00030n-0G for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:12:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233E1127C0; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:12:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14332-02; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:12:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D135F127E5; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:38:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A89127A9 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:38:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08609-04-2 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from trueband.net (trueband.net [216.163.120.10]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 08837127BB for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:38:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 14704 invoked by uid 1006); 25 Jun 2006 17:38:44 -0000 Original-Received: from ishamid@colostate.edu by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.1.0. Clear:SA:0(0.0/100.0):. Processed in 0.657718 secs); 25 Jun 2006 17:38:44 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.9) by -v with SMTP; 25 Jun 2006 17:38:43 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 22433 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2006 17:38:42 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO walayah-main) (70.41.6.58) by -v with SMTP; 25 Jun 2006 17:38:42 -0000 Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: <449E4485.3080201@elvenkind.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.54 (Win32, build 7730) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:28848 Archived-At: On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:08:37 -0600, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > My guess is you could just remove the punctuation support from the > current OTP. If a user really needs to say "1.2 million", (s)he can > just write $1.2$ instead, which is more or less standard TeX > practice anyway. > > It is my understanding that the contents of $$ is unaffected by > OTPs (and if it is not, it should be made so. Math is a language > on its own). ok, it's done. The new ocp is here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/2/27/Uni2cuni.zip and the instructions are here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Aleph_Guide#Installing Now, in normal text, +, -, and . are treated as separators, not plus sign, minus, and decimal point. If you want math use $$ etc. but then you will get the math font not omarb (which is standard practice in the Arabic-script world). I have no idea if this affects Hans' solution (have not upgraded yet); this is all experimental so things may change. An aside: Classical Arabic is more sensical. Consider the number 3721. In classical Arabic one says, "one and twenty and and seven hundred and three thousand", which makes much more sense for a r-l language. So one would write the numeral from r to l and it would look the same. How decimals would be handled in the classical case needs a bit of research Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/