\unknown

\unknown

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi Hans...

\unknown

is cryptic; why not just...

\ellipsis? That's what it is after all, and it's immediately obvious,  
easier to remember, etc....-)

(at least as an official synonym...)

Note that you could also have \setupellipsis: '...' is the most prevalent  
but not the only form it can take. '***' and \emdash are apparent  
alternatives...

Bringhurst's discussion on ellipsis rules might help with creating  
typographical options... French and English have different rules, for  
example...

...Best
...Idris

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Re: \unknown

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:48:39 -0600
"Idris Samawi Hamid" <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote:

> Hi Hans...
> 
> \unknown
> 
> is cryptic; why not just...
> 
> \ellipsis? That's what it is after all, and it's immediately obvious,  
> easier to remember, etc....-)
> 
> (at least as an official synonym...)

Hi Idris,

text \textellipsis

> 
> Note that you could also have \setupellipsis: '...' is the most prevalent  
> but not the only form it can take. '***' and \emdash are apparent  
> alternatives...

you can use \periods\ or \periods[2] or \periods[5] ...

you can also change the distance of the dots with \def\periodswidth
{...} (default value: 0.5em) and the default number auf dots with the
commands \def\periodsdefault{...} (default value: 3).

Hans, is it possible to make also a definition for the sign used by
\periods  to write something like \starts and get ***.

> 
> Bringhurst's discussion on ellipsis rules might help with creating  
> typographical options... French and English have different rules, for  
> example...
> 
> ...Best
> ...Idris

Wolfgang

a bug

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi,

Found a bug; \placecontent etc. does not work with these start-stops...

=======================
\starttext

\placecontent

\startchapter[ref=knuth,title=Knuth]

\input knuth

\at{Page}[knuth]

Text\footnote[one]{First footnote} text

Text
\startfootnote[two]
   Second footnote
\stopfootnote
text

Text
\startfootnote
   Third footnote
\stopfootnote
text

see \in{footnote}[one] or \in{footnote}[two] %\unknown

\let\ellipsis=\unknown

\ellipsis

\stopchapter

\chapter{Test}

\stoptext
=======================

log:

=======================
! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> \?
              ?se \??se \v!chapter \c!title
\getvalue #1->\csname #1
                         \endcsname
\listtextcommand #1->\begstrut #1
                                  \endstrut
\doattributes ...sname #1#2\@EA \endcsname \fi {#4
                                                   }\dostopattributes
<argument> ...{\??se \??se \v!chapter \c!title }}}
                                                   \egroup \ifdim \wd  
4=\zero...

\secondoftwoarguments #1#2->#2

...
l.25 ...hapter \c!title }}{2--0-1-0-0-0-0-0--1}{1}
=======================

don't know if this is fatal but thought you would want to know.

Best
Idris


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Re: a bug

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

That was supposed to be private to Wolfgang, sorry...

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:07:49 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid  
<ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote:

> Hi,

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Re: \unknown

[Hans Hagen]

Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
> Hi Hans...
>
> \unknown
>
well, not all fonts have elipses -) 

i use \unknown as placeholder for something (yet) unknown 

Hans 

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