From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36634 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Idris Samawi Hamid" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Windows Installer for MsWinContext Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:56:59 -0600 Organization: Colorado State University Message-ID: References: <1467918583.20070916234116@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189987145 14274 80.91.229.12 (16 Sep 2007 23:59:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) To: Yatskovsky , "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Sep 17 01:59:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IX40z-0002VZ-AL for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:59:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EFBE2040E; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:58:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02752-03-2; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3D42041B; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D632041B for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:58:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02752-03 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from parker.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (parker.colostate.edu [129.82.103.125]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E82F20419 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lamar.colostate.edu (lamar.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.75]) by parker.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX5.3/8.13.4/8.11.0) with ESMTP id l8GNuxbH3018904; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:57:00 -0600 Original-Received: from ihamidnb.libarts.colostate.edu (ihamidnb.libarts.colostate.edu [129.82.186.200]) by lamar.colostate.edu (AIX5.2/8.11.6p2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id l8GNuxt5537988; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:56:59 -0600 In-Reply-To: <1467918583.20070916234116@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.20 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36634 Archived-At: Hi, On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:41:16 -0600, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello, > > I'm back with my idea of installer for mswincontext distribution. I > successfully use my local (post-install) version , which simply sets > env. vars, but I feel there is need for more. Anticipating new > mswincontext build, I can implement the installer for it using free Inno > Setup software. Good project! > The controversy is about setup file content. I see it as whole > mswincontext, because it is declared as minimal distribution (so, > nothing can be thrown away). However, I was suggested on this list to > make some parts downloadable on demand, so I need to ask: what parts to > make? I believe you should just support the whole mswincontext, and install it in C:\ConTeXt etc. Please do not use C:\Program Files ;-) Perhaps the docs should be an install option, as they are quite huge. Some things like the complete TeX-Gyre font suite need to be added to mswincontext or given as an option. There are other modules as well that might make good options for the installer. > In general, I believe that if classical Windows installer for ConTeXt > were available, it would gain more popularity and appreciation. A true stand-alone ConTeXt has been a goal I have pushed for a number of years now, and from what I understand Hans has heading more and more in that direction. > Of course, I'd like to hear from Hans and Taco what they think about it, > and whether they dare to facilitate this. My only real question is how to also support a minimal LaTeX distribution side-by-side. I hardly use it, but many of us still have legacy documents we need to process now and then. Maybe we can take the LaTeX portion of XemTeX and make it an install option as well. A couple years back I actually dumped the XemTeX LaTeX files into my C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf tree and it worked (and mswincontext is closer to fpTeX/Fabrice's way than to the MiKTeX way AKAIK). Since ConTeXt always uses \texmf-local there was no conflict. OTOH there may be other issues... maybe a dedicated \texmf-latex tree branch is called for... Good luck and all the Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________