From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41500 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Idris Samawi Hamid" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:32:13 -0600 Organization: Colorado State University Message-ID: References: <20080609014253.GA8898@khaled-laptop> <484D5006.6060700@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213058037 27014 80.91.229.12 (10 Jun 2008 00:33:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:33:57 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jun 10 02:34:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K5rop-0007jJ-83 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:34:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51421FC44; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:33:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27224-04-3; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:33:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9ABB1FBEF; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:32:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547EA1FBEF for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:32:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27224-04-2 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:32:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id B31601FBD4 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:32:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 20416 invoked by uid 1006); 10 Jun 2008 00:32:23 -0000 Original-Received: from ishamid@colostate.edu by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 0.214528 secs); 10 Jun 2008 00:32:23 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.5) by -v with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 00:32:23 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20277 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 00:32:21 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO your-b27fb1c401) (75.104.82.252) by -v with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 00:32:21 -0000 In-Reply-To: <484D5006.6060700@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.24 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41500 Archived-At: Hi Hans, On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:45:10 -0600, Hans Hagen wrote: > Khaled Hosny wrote: >> Using Luatex engine, ZWNJ and ZWJ chars are rendered incorrectly. If the >> font has a glyph for it, it does the expected behaviour (force >> non-joining or joining respectively) but the glyph get rendered while it >> shouldn't. But if the font has no glyphs for it, it has no effect at >> all. See the attached example. > > i uploaded a beta > > after analyzing i now remove the joiners Not sure if this is the best approach: Despite what MS Typography says, I think it's important to maintain the joiner info after analysis. If I select text from a pdf, the joiner info should be there. This is important for, eg, switching from Arabic-language to Farsi-language typography. So If I select some pdf text formatted according to Farsi rules, I should be able to save that text with the rules included. Can this be made an option, so fonts that contain zwj zwnj are not affected? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________