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From: "Idris Samawi Hamid" <ishamid@colostate.edu>
To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Making necessary OpenType features on by default
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:56:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.uptf3todnx1yh1@ihamidnb.libarts.colostate.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090223171502.GB7160@khaled-laptop>



On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:15:02 -0700, Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org>  
wrote:

>> The key point is that SIL has taken care to support nearly every
>> Arabic-script language, not just Arabic, so this gives us a platform  
>> that
>> all Arabic-script users can use by default until other free fonts -- or  
>> a
>> fork of Scheherazade -- become available.
>
> I already have a fork, I just don't want to encourage people to use such
> aesthetically poor fonts, but as it seems to be the only solution at
> hand right now (especially the Unicode covering), I think I'll try to
> clean my font and publish it this week ISA.

Ok, great!

>> BTW: There is an الله lig in Scheherazade -- rather unattractive, but
>> it's there. Maybe you have an old version?
>
> Sorry, yes it has one but is no better than not having one at all.

It's ugly, no doubt, but we can easily replace it, and a couple of the  
other specials as well.

<snip>

>> See the above... make a list of errors in the font and we'll both work  
>> on
>> it one way or other. Back to Lotus: I suggest to you and Otared the
>> following project: develop Scheherazade into a free alternative to  
>> Lotus.
>> Lotus is that is as close to a pure OpenType font as we are going to
>> easily get. Although it supports less of Arabic-script unicode than
>> Scheherazade, it is a standard in the Arabic-script publishing world. So
>> if our default interface supports Lotus and Scheherazade out of the box,
>> we will be well on our way to what you guys are looking for.
>
> My initial idea was to extend Scheherazade in a similar way, but I gave
> up on this, there are so many similar glyphs in the Arabic Unicode block
> that a simple ligature like بي means 28 (Baa' forms) * 10 (Yaa' forms):
> 280 glyphs for one ligatures, I don't think this is a wise idea.

Sure, but again

لا يسقط الميسور بالمعسور

So just start with Arabic, then Farsi, and forget the rest for now. No  
need for perfection at the outset ;-)

Actually, I suggest forgetting about ligatures etc. for now, and just get  
the basics done for Scheherazade. We can work on ligatures etc later.

سلام
Idris

-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-23 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-20 18:39 Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 18:57 ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 19:31   ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-20 21:02     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 21:23       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-20 22:10         ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 22:26           ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-21 23:53             ` Karl Berry
2009-02-20 20:23   ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 22:07     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 22:49       ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-21 15:58         ` Ilda Khaki
2009-02-23 10:58           ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-21 13:05   ` Otared Kavian
2009-02-22 21:03     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-22 22:44       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-23 12:02         ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 13:00           ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 15:34           ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-23 17:15             ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 17:56               ` Idris Samawi Hamid [this message]
2009-02-23 22:51                 ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 23:19                   ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-24 20:41                     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-25  2:30                       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-23 10:53       ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 12:09         ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 12:17           ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-02-23 12:28             ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 16:56               ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 17:01                 ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-02-23 17:04                   ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-02-23 17:49                   ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 23:23                 ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-24 15:49                   ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2009-02-24 16:03                     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 12:36             ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-22 22:54     ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-22 23:35     ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-21 21:14   ` Otared Kavian
2009-02-23 10:42     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 12:25       ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 12:46         ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 12:56         ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 18:58 ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 20:27   ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 22:09     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 22:46 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-21 11:41   ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-22 20:54     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-22 23:08       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-22 13:51   ` Khaled Hosny

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