From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/72094 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?SWRyaXMgU2FtYXdpIEhhbWlkINin2K/YsdmK2LMgICDYs9mF2KfZiNmKIA==?= =?utf-8?B?2K3Yp9mF2K8=?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: adjusting accents under slant Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:56:38 -0600 Organization: csu Message-ID: References: <4EB133E5.4030403@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=----------LV50md3lZli9PVGEmWEn9D X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320285510 3495 80.91.229.12 (3 Nov 2011 01:58:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: "Hans Hagen" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Nov 03 02:58:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLmZU-0008C9-VA for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:58:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CC4CB098; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:58:23 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id iY6-RvkZg+Se; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:58:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24717CB0AE; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:58:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA22CB0AE for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:58:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Y-CYZGpE7L5H for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:58:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-til.mf.surf.net (filter2-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.218]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CB5CB098 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:58:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mx.clean.pph5a.pphosted.com (mx.clean.pph5a.pphosted.com [208.86.201.9]) by filter2-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pA31w46M026920 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:58:06 +0100 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (m0000725 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00000f06.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id pA31veY2011275; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:58:03 -0700 Original-Received: from dm0226.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx0b-00000f06.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 10ugfcrhsg-1; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:58:02 -0700 X-Eon-Dm: dm0226 Original-Received: by dm0226.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4b682438) id dm0226.4eb0b9d7.2d4bb; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:57:26 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQNp6zFOsfUGUb5cxQIAAAAC,b6a5a77fe3c876d7a904215547c57115 X-Originating-Ip: 75.104.36.56 In-Reply-To: <4EB133E5.4030403@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.52 (Win32) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2011-11-02_06:2011-11-03, 2011-11-02, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1111020311 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=208.86.201.9; country=US; region=CA; city=Sunnyvale; postalcode=94089; latitude=37.4249; longitude=-122.0074; metrocode=807; areacode=408; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4249,-122.0074&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0bFQpW5x3 - 38db80c2c4cb - 20111103 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.218 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:72094 Archived-At: ------------LV50md3lZli9PVGEmWEn9D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:13:25 -0600, Hans Hagen wrote: >> Of course LM does not look so bad but I'm using a different font so t= his >> is just an illustration. > > \slantperpoint > > is a rather traditional tex/font parameter and not present in opentype= = > fonts so you have to hard code something there Sure ... but I can't figure out a way to change the italic behavior = without changing the tf behavior. Do you have a trick somewhere where you can define a conditional such th= at if slanted font (\it or \sl etc) do x else do y Then we could add that to the macro? Is there any other way? > you could try \definefontfeature[default][default][compose=3Dyes] assu= ming = > that you have the bottom accent available I already have compose=3Dyes in the typscripts, e.g. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D \definefontfallback [latindot] [file:LMRoman12-Regular*default] [0x0323] [force=3Dyes] \definefontfeature [minionpro-tf] [mode=3Dnode,script=3Dlatn,language=3Ddflt,trep=3Dyes,protrusion=3Dqu= ality, expansion=3Dquality,compose=3Dyes,combine=3Dyes,tlig=3Dyes, kern=3Dyes,liga=3Dyes,onum=3Dyes,cpsp=3Dyes] \definefontfeature [minionpro-it] [mode=3Dnode,script=3Dlatn,language=3Ddflt,trep=3Dyes,compose=3Dyes,c= ombine=3Dyes,tlig=3Dyes, kern=3Dyes,liga=3Dyes,onum=3Dyes,cpsp=3Dyes,protrusion=3Dquality,exp= ansion=3Dquality, swsh=3Dyes] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D but the results are bad using =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D \defineactivecharacter =E1=B8=A5 {h=CC=A3} % Ux0323 is explicit within = the {} \defineactivecharacter =E1=B8=A4 {H=CC=A3} % Ux0323 is explicit within = the {} \defineactivecharacter =E1=B9=A3 {s=CC=A3} % Ux0323 is explicit within = the {} \defineactivecharacter =E1=B9=A2 {S=CC=A3} % Ux0323 is explicit within = the {} \starttext =E1=B8=A4 {\it =E1=B8=A4} =E1=B8=A5 {\it =E1=B8=A5} =E1=B9=A2 {\it =E1=B9=A2} =E1=B9=A3 {\it =E1=B9=A3} \stoptext =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D See pdf. Even in LM, the results are very uneven ... If it takes a hard-coded solution for each char that's fine, I should be= = able to extrapolate from a template for just one in regular and italic. 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