From: "Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد" <ishamid@colostate.edu>
To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Typesetting Classical Arabic Poetry
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:13:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.w2bq42mppw6hmh@ishamid-pc.wildblue.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c482a1721657d585106f50028ce66597@weitnahbei.de>
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Hi JR,
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:12:54 -0600, J. R. Schmid <jrs@weitnahbei.de> wrote:
> for better or worse, I'm trying to typeset Arabic poetry in ConTeXt
For better :-)
> after having become fed up with LaTeX for a variety of reasons. Arabic
> script itself is not a problem and I already love how easy it is to use
> whatever font you like and how clean ConTeXt seems to be in its design.
>
> What is giving me trouble, though, is the face that traditionally,
> poetry needs to be typeset in two columns. Using an English poem for an
> example, it'd look a little bit like this:
>
> Said Rich Accetta-Evans:
>
> 1 My poem delights me 2 My poem is mine
> 3 It is like fresh bread 4 When I bake it myself
> 5 It is like my son 6 The day he was born
> [...]
>
> This is to be read in the order of the numbers, so "columns" or
> "simplecolumns" won't work (I think).
I have an experimental/rudimentary module that does this. It needs some
work to get, e.g., better widths for automatic typesetting in the
high-level code (tracking the dynamic \hsize in ConTeXt) but you are
welcome to try it. See the attached module and test file.
>
> The second problem is the way in which Arabic needs to be justified,
> namely not by adjusting the space between words, but instead by
> adjusting the connecting line between letters:
>
> قال أبو الطيب أحمد بن الحسين المتنبّي
>
> أنـا الـذي نـظر الأعمى إلـى أدبي وأسمعـت كـلماتــي مـن به صمم
> كم تـطلبون لـنا عيبًـا فــيعجزكم ويكره المجد ما تأتـون والكرم
> ما أبعـد العيب والنقصان عن شرفي أنا الثّريا وذان الشيب والهرم
> [...]
>
> I couldn't find any info on either of these two questions through the
> documentation or through Google (although I might have been looking for
> the wrong keywords). Any comments are appreciated! :-)
I'm hoping that this will be implemented in the coming months. Hans and I
have done work on the general case -- involving very advanced
font-features -- but not so much on the simple case -- involving
insertions of tatweel. That may seem counter-intuitive, usually the simple
comes before the complex ;-)
Let me know how things work, and you can write me off-list.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-23 21:12 J. R. Schmid
2013-08-24 14:13 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [this message]
2013-08-26 14:15 J. R. Schmid
2013-08-26 18:06 ` Marco Patzer
2013-08-26 20:39 ` Hans Hagen
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