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* Arabic and Latin hemistiches
@ 2013-08-29 20:34 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد
  2013-08-29 22:48 ` J. R. Schmid
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد @ 2013-08-29 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context; +Cc: Hans Hagen, J. R. Schmid

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Dear gang,

Re: Arabic poetry thread:

Hans has just implemented high-level support for hemistiches and caesuras  
(using here the technical names for the style of poetry structure used in  
Arabic and other classical literature).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemistich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesura

With the latest beta, run the attached file. The module m-hemistich.mkiv  
also has a demo inside.

For Arabic, note the tatweel across columns (only manual for now). The  
separator option with \hemistiches is probably more useful for Latin and  
Greek classical literature etc where the separator occurs on every line;  
the \hemistichescaesura option is probably more useful for Arabic where  
there are only occasional connectors across columns.

Could one of you kindly add a page with this info to the wiki? Much thanks  
and enjoy!

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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* Re: Arabic and Latin hemistiches
  2013-08-29 20:34 Arabic and Latin hemistiches Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد
@ 2013-08-29 22:48 ` J. R. Schmid
  2013-08-30  0:10   ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: J. R. Schmid @ 2013-08-29 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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Idris,

that's awesome news - I would have never imagined for something like this
to happen so quickly. Unfortunately, I can't get it to run (probably my own
fault). So far I'd been working with TeXLive. Now to try this out, I
installed ConTeXt standalone and then issued "first-setup.bat
--modules='m-hemistich'" (tried 't-hemistich' as well, and yes, Windows -
shame on me). It still gives the error message "resolvers > modules >
'hemistich' is not found", though. What am I missing?

Cheers,
          J.R.



On 29 August 2013 22:34, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <
ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote:

> Dear gang,
>
> Re: Arabic poetry thread:
>
> Hans has just implemented high-level support for hemistiches and caesuras
> (using here the technical names for the style of poetry structure used in
> Arabic and other classical literature).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Hemistich<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemistich>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Caesura<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesura>
>
> With the latest beta, run the attached file. The module m-hemistich.mkiv
> also has a demo inside.
>
> For Arabic, note the tatweel across columns (only manual for now). The
> separator option with \hemistiches is probably more useful for Latin and
> Greek classical literature etc where the separator occurs on every line;
> the \hemistichescaesura option is probably more useful for Arabic where
> there are only occasional connectors across columns.
>
> Could one of you kindly add a page with this info to the wiki? Much thanks
> and enjoy!
>
> Best wishes
> Idris
> --
> Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
> Department of Philosophy
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO 80523
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
> the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
> archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>

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* Re: Arabic and Latin hemistiches
  2013-08-29 22:48 ` J. R. Schmid
@ 2013-08-30  0:10   ` Hans Hagen
  2013-08-30  0:25     ` J. R. Schmid
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-08-30  0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On 8/30/2013 12:48 AM, J. R. Schmid wrote:
> Idris,
>
> that's awesome news - I would have never imagined for something like
> this to happen so quickly. Unfortunately, I can't get it to run
> (probably my own fault). So far I'd been working with TeXLive. Now to
> try this out, I installed ConTeXt standalone and then issued
> "first-setup.bat --modules='m-hemistich'" (tried 't-hemistich' as well,
> and yes, Windows - shame on me). It still gives the error message
> "resolvers > modules > 'hemistich' is not found", though. What am I missing?

it's an m- module

just try this:

context --global m-hemistich.mkiv

if that produces a file you should start your docs with

\usemodule[hemistich] % no m-

(using the command line to load modules is only needed for special cases)

Hans

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* Re: Arabic and Latin hemistiches
  2013-08-30  0:10   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-08-30  0:25     ` J. R. Schmid
  2013-08-30  0:42       ` Aditya Mahajan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: J. R. Schmid @ 2013-08-30  0:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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There seems to be something more fundamental wrong with my setup.
When I do that, I get:

! I can't find file `m-hemistich.mkiv'.

Isn't "first-setup.bat --modules='m-hemistich'" supposed to install the
module?


On 30 August 2013 02:10, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 8/30/2013 12:48 AM, J. R. Schmid wrote:
>
>> Idris,
>>
>> that's awesome news - I would have never imagined for something like
>> this to happen so quickly. Unfortunately, I can't get it to run
>> (probably my own fault). So far I'd been working with TeXLive. Now to
>> try this out, I installed ConTeXt standalone and then issued
>> "first-setup.bat --modules='m-hemistich'" (tried 't-hemistich' as well,
>> and yes, Windows - shame on me). It still gives the error message
>> "resolvers > modules > 'hemistich' is not found", though. What am I
>> missing?
>>
>
> it's an m- module
>
> just try this:
>
> context --global m-hemistich.mkiv
>
> if that produces a file you should start your docs with
>
> \usemodule[hemistich] % no m-
>
> (using the command line to load modules is only needed for special cases)
>
> Hans
>
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**-----
>                                           Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
>               Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>     tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
>                                              | www.pragma-pod.nl
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* Re: Arabic and Latin hemistiches
  2013-08-30  0:25     ` J. R. Schmid
@ 2013-08-30  0:42       ` Aditya Mahajan
  2013-08-30  1:07         ` J. R. Schmid
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2013-08-30  0:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013, J. R. Schmid wrote:

> There seems to be something more fundamental wrong with my setup.
> When I do that, I get:
>
> ! I can't find file `m-hemistich.mkiv'.
>
> Isn't "first-setup.bat --modules='m-hemistich'" supposed to install the
> module?

From what I understand from Hans's message, m-hemistich is part of the 
ConTeXt distribution, so you just need to update your distribution to 
install it (i.e., just run first-setup.bat)

The --modules switch in first-setup is for third-party modules (those 
starting with t- )

Aditya
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* Re: Arabic and Latin hemistiches
  2013-08-30  0:42       ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2013-08-30  1:07         ` J. R. Schmid
  2013-08-30  2:14           ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: J. R. Schmid @ 2013-08-30  1:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

> From what I understand from Hans's message, m-hemistich is part of the
> ConTeXt distribution, so you just need to update your distribution to
> install it (i.e., just run first-setup.bat)

That's what I understood from the ConTeXt Standalone wiki page, and also 
why I'm so confused about this - my Standalone installation is brand 
new, and I started it roughly 3 hours after Hans' post about the new 
module. I just ran first-setup.bat again, but it still doesn't find the 
module.

Is there a separate source/repository/etc. that needs to be specified?
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* Re: Arabic and Latin hemistiches
  2013-08-30  1:07         ` J. R. Schmid
@ 2013-08-30  2:14           ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد @ 2013-08-30  2:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: J. R. Schmid

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:07:48 -0600, J. R. Schmid <jrs@weitnahbei.de> wrote:

> That's what I understood from the ConTeXt Standalone wiki page, and also  
> why I'm so confused about this - my Standalone installation is brand  
> new, and I started it roughly 3 hours after Hans' post about the new  
> module. I just ran first-setup.bat again, but it still doesn't find the  
> module.
>  Is there a separate source/repository/etc. that needs to be specified?

Look here (where the beginning of the path may be different on your
machine/OS):

C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\base

If m-hemistich.mkiv is there, you have updated the distribution. If not,
you have not updated the distribution.

Another way: Look at a log file from any run and look at the date to
verify that you have updated. Here's mine:

ConTeXt  ver: 2013.08.26 16:41

If you have an older date, you need to update.

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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