Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

[talazem]

Dear all,

When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining the font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” would have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers of that script.

Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they appear correctly. MWE below.

Best wishes,
Talal

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\setuppapersize[A6]
\mainlanguage[arabic]
\definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
\setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]

\starttext \showframe
\righttoleft

%\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]

\section{section one}
\startlinenumbering
\input ward 
\stoplinenumbering
\footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}

\section{section two}
مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
\stoptext
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Re: Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

[talazem]

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Never mind. After more word combinations when searching the archives, I came across Wolfgang’s answer here: gmane.comp.tex.context/85673 <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/85673>, in which he says to use the \defineconversion command. E.g.:

\defineconversion
  [myconversion]
  [۱,۲,۳,۴,۵,۶,۷,۸,۹,۱۰,
   ۱۱,۱۲,۱۳,۱۴,۱۵,۱۶,۱۷,۱۸,۱۹,۲۰,
   ۲۱,۲۲,۲۳,۲۴,۲۵,۲۶,۲۷,۲۸,۲۹,۳۰]

\setuppagenumber[numberconversion=myconversion]

Of course, one can add the same to setups for the other matters as well:

\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject][conversion=myconversion]
\setuplinenumbering[conversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[footnote][numberconversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[linenote][numberconversion=myconversion]
etc.

This actually provides lots of flexibility, as you can fine-tune various footnote streams by assigning different scripts, etc.

Talal


> On 3 Aug 2015, at 00:32, talazem@fastmail.fm wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining the font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” would have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers of that script.
> 
> Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they appear correctly. MWE below.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Talal
> 
> =====
> \setuppapersize[A6]
> \mainlanguage[arabic]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
> \setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]
> 
> \starttext \showframe
> \righttoleft
> 
> %\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> 
> \section{section one}
> \startlinenumbering
> \input ward 
> \stoplinenumbering
> \footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}
> 
> \section{section two}
> مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
> \stoptext
> =====


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Re: Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

Salaam, Talal,
See below:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:32:44 -0600, talazem@fastmail.fm  
<talazem@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin  
> scripts), how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout  
> structures such as headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote  
> numbers? In the case of Arabic, this means using the so-called  
> “mashriqi”, or “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some  
> option when defining the font family? (I would have thought that using  
> “\mainlanguage[arabic]” would have done it.) Of course, I am using a  
> font that contains the numbers of that script.

I'm on the move, but try these keys in the appropriate structure commands:

numberconversion=arabicnumerals
numberconversion=abjadnumerals

Failing that, a workaround is to use the m-translate module, and define a  
translation for each the ten digits. But numberconversion=arabicnumerals  
is supposed to work.

Wassalaam
Idris

PS \start-stopsection is now standard (\section is still there, but...)

>
> Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they  
> appear correctly. MWE below.
>
> Best wishes,
> Talal
>
> =====
> \setuppapersize[A6]
> \mainlanguage[arabic]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
> \setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]
>
> \starttext \showframe
> \righttoleft
>
> %\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
>
> \section{section one}
> \startlinenumbering
> \input ward
> \stoplinenumbering
> \footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number,  
> section number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic  
> script.}
>
> \section{section two}
> مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
> \stoptext
> =====
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> to the Wiki!
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-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid
Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

[talazem]

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Thank you for that, Idris. I had tried those earlier, but both of them gave me not digits but the Arabic equivalents of roman numerals — letters, used in the Arabic language, to denote enumeration (as you know). In fact, I have now settled on using those for my front matter in the Arabic critical edition. In fact, now that you mention them both, it seems to me that they produce the same out put: ا ب ج د ه و ز … which I would expect from abjadnumerals but not from arabicnumerals. Perhaps there is a bug?

But, in any case, the solution of Wolfgang solves my immediate problem. It would, of course, be nice not to have had to type out many lines of numbers (the Arabic edition has more than 250 sections, i.e. entries), and to have this automated when declaring the main language to be Arabic, for example. But it is a small price to pay for the flexible functionality. 

All the best, and salam,
Talal

> On 3 Aug 2015, at 03:04, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu> wrote:
> 
> Salaam, Talal,
> See below:
> 
> On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:32:44 -0600, talazem@fastmail.fm <mailto:talazem@fastmail.fm> <talazem@fastmail.fm <mailto:talazem@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining the font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” would have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers of that script.
> 
> I'm on the move, but try these keys in the appropriate structure commands:
> 
> numberconversion=arabicnumerals
> numberconversion=abjadnumerals
> 
> Failing that, a workaround is to use the m-translate module, and define a translation for each the ten digits. But numberconversion=arabicnumerals is supposed to work.
> 
> Wassalaam
> Idris
> 
> PS \start-stopsection is now standard (\section is still there, but...)
> 
>> 
>> Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they appear correctly. MWE below.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Talal
>> 
>> =====
>> \setuppapersize[A6]
>> \mainlanguage[arabic]
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
>> \setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]
>> 
>> \starttext \showframe
>> \righttoleft
>> 
>> %\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
>> 
>> \section{section one}
>> \startlinenumbering
>> \input ward
>> \stoplinenumbering
>> \footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}
>> 
>> \section{section two}
>> مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
>> \stoptext
>> =====
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>> 
>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context <http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context>
>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl <http://www.pragma-ade.nl/> / http://tex.aanhet.net <http://tex.aanhet.net/>
>> archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ <http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/>
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>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> -- 
> Idris Samawi Hamid
> Professor of Philosophy
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO 80523
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
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Re: Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 20:24:50 -0600, talazem@fastmail.fm  
<talazem@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> But, in any case, the solution of Wolfgang solves my immediate problem.  
> It would, of course, be nice not to have had to type out many lines of  
> numbers (the Arabic edition has more than 250 sections, i.e. entries),  
> and to have this automated when declaring the main language to be  
> Arabic, for example.

Ultimately this workaround is overkill. conversion=arabicnumerals needs to  
be fixed. It's a matter of glyph mapping exactly ten digits, should be  
trivial...

Wassalaam
Idris
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Idris Samawi Hamid
Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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