bib module - urgent!

bib module - urgent!

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

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Dear gang,

I am currently writing an article (mkiv) with lots of bibliographical  
references. But t-bib.tex seems to have disappeared, and the following  
simple file fails:

============
\starttext
\usemodule[bib]

\startpublication[k=haq,
                   t=book,
                   a=Haq,
                   y=1994,
                   s=Haq94]
\author[]{Syed Nomanul}[S.]{}{Haq}
\title{Names, Natures, and Things}
\pubname{Kluwer}
\city{Dordrecht}
\pubyear{1994}
\stoppublication

\cite[haq]

\stoptext
============
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/publ-usr.lua:95: attempt to  
call field 'markasupdated' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/publ-usr.lua:95: in  
function 'addbtxentry'
	[\directlua]:1: in main chunk

  4     \startpublication[k=haq,
  5                       t=book,
  6                       a=Haq,
  7                       y=1994,
  8                       s=Haq94]
  9     \author[]{Syed Nomanul}[S.]{}{Haq}
10     \title{Names, Natures, and Things}
11     \pubname{Kluwer}
12     \city{Dordrecht}
13     \pubyear{1994}
14 >>  \stoppublication
15
16     \cite[haq]
17
18     \stoptext
?
============

Now my understanding is that the new biblio system does not use bbl files  
yet. But I stopped using .bib files the moment Taco released the original  
bibliography module. Biblio databases are all in .bbl format.

I also set up an extensive bib environment (attached) to take care of all  
sorts of things.

If this is broken, can it be fixed asap? Please don't make me have to  
convert bbl to bib; that will be beyond depressing. Also don't want to  
lose my environment commands.

This is urgent because there is only a short time to finish this article,  
and I really want to spend more time writing the content than debugging  
Context! :-) :-) :-)

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid
Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: bib module - urgent!

[Keith Schultz]

Hi Irdis,

The answer to your question is quite simple,

You are missing \setuppublications

Here the MWE:
setuppublications[alternative=apa]

\starttext
\startpublication[k=haq,
                 t=book,
                 a=Haq,
                 y=1994,
                 s=Haq94]
\author[]{Syed Nomanul}[S.]{}{Haq}
\title{Names, Natures, and Things}
\pubname{Kluwer}
\city{Dordrecht}
\pubyear{1994}
\stoppublication


this is a cite from \cite[haq]
\stoptext

regards
	Keith.

> Am 20.01.2015 um 00:16 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <ishamid@colostate.edu>:
> 
> Dear gang,
> 
> I am currently writing an article (mkiv) with lots of bibliographical references. But t-bib.tex seems to have disappeared, and the following simple file fails:
> 
> ============
> \starttext
> \usemodule[bib]
> 
> \startpublication[k=haq,
>                  t=book,
>                  a=Haq,
>                  y=1994,
>                  s=Haq94]
> \author[]{Syed Nomanul}[S.]{}{Haq}
> \title{Names, Natures, and Things}
> \pubname{Kluwer}
> \city{Dordrecht}
> \pubyear{1994}
> \stoppublication
> 
> \cite[haq]
> 
> \stoptext
> ============
> C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/publ-usr.lua:95: attempt to call field 'markasupdated' (a nil value)
> stack traceback:
> 	C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/publ-usr.lua:95: in function 'addbtxentry'
> 	[\directlua]:1: in main chunk
> 
> 4     \startpublication[k=haq,
> 5                       t=book,
> 6                       a=Haq,
> 7                       y=1994,
> 8                       s=Haq94]
> 9     \author[]{Syed Nomanul}[S.]{}{Haq}
> 10     \title{Names, Natures, and Things}
> 11     \pubname{Kluwer}
> 12     \city{Dordrecht}
> 13     \pubyear{1994}
> 14 >>  \stoppublication
> 15
> 16     \cite[haq]
> 17
> 18     \stoptext
> ?
> ============
> 
> Now my understanding is that the new biblio system does not use bbl files yet. But I stopped using .bib files the moment Taco released the original bibliography module. Biblio databases are all in .bbl format.
> 
> I also set up an extensive bib environment (attached) to take care of all sorts of things.
> 
> If this is broken, can it be fixed asap? Please don't make me have to convert bbl to bib; that will be beyond depressing. Also don't want to lose my environment commands.
> 
> This is urgent because there is only a short time to finish this article, and I really want to spend more time writing the content than debugging Context! :-) :-) :-)
> 
> Best wishes
> Idris
> -- 
> Idris Samawi Hamid
> Professor of Philosophy
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO 80523<bib-env.tex>___________________________________________________________________________________
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> 
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Re: bib module - urgent!

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

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Hi Keith,

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:07:23 -0700, Keith Schultz  
<keithjschultz@icloud.com> wrote:

> setuppublications[alternative=apa]

Thank you very much. The strange thing is that that exact line is in the  
previously attached bib-env.tex (forgot to put it in the minimal file I  
sent to the list) but I was still getting an error. Yet now it seems to  
work. There must have been something else I was doing wrong in the  
original file.

The \usemodule[bib] is just ignored -- ' > modules > 'bib' is not found'  
--, so that was not causing it (per Robert's suggestion). Anyway, it seems  
I'm back in business. Here is a complete working file (output attached):

===============
\starttext
% \usemodule[bib]
\input bib-env

\startpublication[k=haq,
                   t=book,
                   a=Haq,
                   y=1994,
                   s=Haq94]
\author[]{Syed Nomanul}[S.]{}{Haq}
\title{Names, Natures, and Things}
\pubname{Kluwer}
\city{Dordrecht}
\pubyear{1994}
\stoppublication

\cite[haq]

\citepage[haq][p.~20]

\citeypage[haq][p.~20]

\citeapypage[haq][p.~20]

\citeyear[haq]

\citeauthor[haq]

\citeauthorp[haq]

\stoptext
===============

Note the extra cite definitions. Perhaps Alan and Hans could add similar  
functionality (with better names of course) to the upcoming new bib  
mechanism. Thanks again, Keith and Robert, and

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid
Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: bib module - urgent!

[Robert Blackstone]

On 20 Jan 2015, at 10:16 ,  Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote
> 
> I also set up an extensive bib environment (attached) to take care of all  
> sorts of things.
> 
> If this is broken, can it be fixed asap? Please don't make me have to  
> convert bbl to bib; that will be beyond depressing. Also don't want to  
> lose my environment commands.
> 
> This is urgent because there is only a short time to finish this article,  
> and I really want to spend more time writing the content than debugging  
> Context! :-) :-) :-)
> 
> Best wishes

What happens if you do not load the bib-module, in other words, omit  \usemodule[bib],  and input only your existing .bbl-files and your bibliograhy setups?
This is what I always do and it still works with the standalone that I installed on january 13 this year.

Best regards,
Robert Blackstone


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Re: bib module - urgent!

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

Hi Robert,

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:20:10 -0700, Robert Blackstone  
<blackstone.robert@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 20 Jan 2015, at 10:16 ,  Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote
>>
>> I also set up an extensive bib environment (attached) to take care of  
>> all
>> sorts of things.
>>
>> If this is broken, can it be fixed asap? Please don't make me have to
>> convert bbl to bib; that will be beyond depressing. Also don't want to
>> lose my environment commands.
>>
>> This is urgent because there is only a short time to finish this  
>> article,
>> and I really want to spend more time writing the content than debugging
>> Context! :-) :-) :-)
>>
>> Best wishes
>
> What happens if you do not load the bib-module, in other words, omit   
> \usemodule[bib],  and input only your existing .bbl-files and your  
> bibliograhy setups?
> This is what I always do and it still works with the standalone that I  
> installed on january 13 this year.
>
> Best regards,
> Robert Blackstone

I get the exact same lua error.

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid
Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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