* space sectioning control
@ 2018-06-25 2:45 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2018-06-25 11:41 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2018-06-25 2:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear gang,
Here's an interesting one, attached and below:
=======
\setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal]
\setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
\setuphead[subsection][criterium=local,distance=0em,sectionstopper=.]
\starttext
\startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
\startsubsection%[title={First}]
\input ward
\stopsubsection
\startsubsection%[title={Second}]
\input ward
\stopsubsection
\stopchapter
\startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
\startsubsection%[title={}]
\input ward
\stopsubsection
\startsubsection%[title={}]
\input ward
\stopsubsection
\stopchapter
\stoptext
=======
Our subsections do not have titles. The space between the subsection
numeral and the text is too large, even with
distance=0em
Negative distances don't behave well - toggle lines 4 and 5.
What can we do to control the space between numeral and text? Thank you in
advance.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512
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* Re: space sectioning control
2018-06-25 2:45 space sectioning control Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
@ 2018-06-25 11:41 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-06-25 12:58 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2018-06-25 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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To number paragraphs you can create a counter with \definelabel.
\definelabel[Paragraph][text=,numberstopper={.},headcommand=\groupedcommand{}{ }]
\starttext
\startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
\Paragraph\input ward
\Paragraph\input ward
\stopchapter
\startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
\Paragraph\input ward
\Paragraph\input ward
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Wolfgang
> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
> 25. Juni 2018 um 04:45
> Dear gang,
>
> Here's an interesting one, attached and below:
>
> =======
> \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal]
> \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
> \setuphead[subsection][criterium=local,distance=0em,sectionstopper=.]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
> \startsubsection%[title={First}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \startsubsection%[title={Second}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \stopchapter
>
> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
> \startsubsection%[title={}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \startsubsection%[title={}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \stopchapter
> \stoptext
> =======
>
> Our subsections do not have titles. The space between the subsection
> numeral and the text is too large, even with
>
> distance=0em
>
> Negative distances don't behave well - toggle lines 4 and 5.
>
> What can we do to control the space between numeral and text? Thank
> you in advance.
>
> Best wishes
> Idris
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> to the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
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* Re: space sectioning control
2018-06-25 11:41 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2018-06-25 12:58 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2018-06-25 13:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2018-06-25 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 05:41:15 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> To number paragraphs you can create a counter with \definelabel.
Yes - and tested some paragraph options yesterday. Many thanks for the
sample below.
But this particular project is very large with countless cross-references
already in place that depend on the subsectioning mechanism. Is there a
workaround that will avoid major surgery to the main text?
Also, subsubsections and subsubsubsections are still needed, as well as
resetting the counters after each chapter etc..
In other words, what's needed is all the features of subsection without
the titling. Just as
\start|stoptitle \start|stopsubject [etc.]
give titling without sectioning numerals, we need something like
\start|stoplabeling \start|stopsublabeling
to get sectioning numerals without titling.
(This is usually not a big deal except in cases like [alternative=text])
(And on a very tight deadline so there is little (= no) time to rebuild
structure from scratch. Better to configure subsection to do what's
needed, and perhaps use a different method for the next big project.)
So is there a way this can be done? Many thanks for your insights and help.
Idris
> \definelabel[Paragraph][text=,numberstopper={.},headcommand=\groupedcommand{}{
> }]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \stopchapter
>
> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
Can this be made into
> Wolfgang
>
>> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
>> 25. Juni 2018 um 04:45
>> Dear gang,
>>
>> Here's an interesting one, attached and below:
>>
>> =======
>> \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal]
>> \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
>> \setuphead[subsection][criterium=local,distance=0em,sectionstopper=.]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>> \startsubsection%[title={First}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \startsubsection%[title={Second}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \stopchapter
>>
>> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \stopchapter
>> \stoptext
>> =======
>>
>> Our subsections do not have titles. The space between the subsection
>> numeral and the text is too large, even with
>>
>> distance=0em
>>
>> Negative distances don't behave well - toggle lines 4 and 5.
>>
>> What can we do to control the space between numeral and text? Thank
>> you in advance.
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512
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* Re: space sectioning control
2018-06-25 12:58 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
@ 2018-06-25 13:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-06-25 13:55 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2018-06-26 15:10 ` Procházka Lukáš Ing.
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2018-06-25 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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You have to change the value of textdistance.
\setuphead
[subsubsection]
[alternative=text,
distance=0pt,
textdistance=.5em]
\starttext
\startchapter[title={First}]
\startsubsubsection
\input ward
\stopsubsubsection
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Wolfgang
> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
> 25. Juni 2018 um 04:45
> Dear gang,
>
> Here's an interesting one, attached and below:
>
> =======
> \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal]
> \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
> \setuphead[subsection][criterium=local,distance=0em,sectionstopper=.]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
> \startsubsection%[title={First}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \startsubsection%[title={Second}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \stopchapter
>
> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
> \startsubsection%[title={}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \startsubsection%[title={}]
> \input ward
> \stopsubsection
> \stopchapter
> \stoptext
> =======
>
> Our subsections do not have titles. The space between the subsection
> numeral and the text is too large, even with
>
> distance=0em
>
> Negative distances don't behave well - toggle lines 4 and 5.
>
> What can we do to control the space between numeral and text? Thank
> you in advance.
>
> Best wishes
> Idris
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> to the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> wiki : http://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> Wolfgang Schuster <mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>
> 25. Juni 2018 um 13:41
> To number paragraphs you can create a counter with \definelabel.
>
>
> \definelabel[Paragraph][text=,numberstopper={.},headcommand=\groupedcommand{}{ }]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \stopchapter
>
> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \Paragraph\input ward
>
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
> 25. Juni 2018 um 14:58
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 05:41:15 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To number paragraphs you can create a counter with \definelabel.
>
> Yes - and tested some paragraph options yesterday. Many thanks for the
> sample below.
>
> But this particular project is very large with countless
> cross-references already in place that depend on the subsectioning
> mechanism. Is there a workaround that will avoid major surgery to the
> main text?
>
> Also, subsubsections and subsubsubsections are still needed, as well
> as resetting the counters after each chapter etc..
>
> In other words, what's needed is all the features of subsection
> without the titling. Just as
>
> \start|stoptitle \start|stopsubject [etc.]
>
> give titling without sectioning numerals, we need something like
>
> \start|stoplabeling \start|stopsublabeling
>
> to get sectioning numerals without titling.
>
> (This is usually not a big deal except in cases like [alternative=text])
>
> (And on a very tight deadline so there is little (= no) time to
> rebuild structure from scratch. Better to configure subsection to do
> what's needed, and perhaps use a different method for the next big
> project.)
>
> So is there a way this can be done? Many thanks for your insights and
> help.
>
> Idris
>
>> \definelabel[Paragraph][text=,numberstopper={.},headcommand=\groupedcommand{}{
>> }]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \stopchapter
>>
>> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \stopchapter
>>
>> \stoptext
>
> Can this be made into
>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
>>> 25. Juni 2018 um 04:45
>>> Dear gang,
>>>
>>> Here's an interesting one, attached and below:
>>>
>>> =======
>>> \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal]
>>> \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
>>> \setuphead[subsection][criterium=local,distance=0em,sectionstopper=.]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>>> \startsubsection%[title={First}]
>>> \input ward
>>> \stopsubsection
>>> \startsubsection%[title={Second}]
>>> \input ward
>>> \stopsubsection
>>> \stopchapter
>>>
>>> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>>> \input ward
>>> \stopsubsection
>>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>>> \input ward
>>> \stopsubsection
>>> \stopchapter
>>> \stoptext
>>> =======
>>>
>>> Our subsections do not have titles. The space between the subsection
>>> numeral and the text is too large, even with
>>>
>>> distance=0em
>>>
>>> Negative distances don't behave well - toggle lines 4 and 5.
>>>
>>> What can we do to control the space between numeral and text? Thank
>>> you in advance.
>
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* Re: space sectioning control
2018-06-25 13:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2018-06-25 13:55 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2018-06-26 15:10 ` Procházka Lukáš Ing.
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From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2018-06-25 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:20:43 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> You have to change the value of textdistance.
> \setuphead
> [subsubsection]
> [alternative=text,
> distance=0pt,
> textdistance=.5em]
> \starttext
> \startchapter[title={First}]
> \startsubsubsection
> \input ward
> \stopsubsubsection
> \stopchapter
> \stoptext
Beautiful - many thanks.
Idris
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512
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* Re: space sectioning control
2018-06-25 13:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-06-25 13:55 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
@ 2018-06-26 15:10 ` Procházka Lukáš Ing.
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From: Procházka Lukáš Ing. @ 2018-06-26 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hello,
there was no key "textdistance" described on wiki, so I added the option into key-value list:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
Lukas
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:20:43 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> You have to change the value of textdistance.
>
> \setuphead
> [subsubsection]
> [alternative=text,
> distance=0pt,
> textdistance=.5em]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter[title={First}]
>
> \startsubsubsection
> \input ward
> \stopsubsubsection
>
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
>> 25. Juni 2018 um 04:45
>> Dear gang,
>>
>> Here's an interesting one, attached and below:
>>
>> =======
>> \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal]
>> \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
>> \setuphead[subsection][criterium=local,distance=0em,sectionstopper=.]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>> \startsubsection%[title={First}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \startsubsection%[title={Second}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \stopchapter
>>
>> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \stopchapter
>> \stoptext
>> =======
>>
>> Our subsections do not have titles. The space between the subsection
>> numeral and the text is too large, even with
>>
>> distance=0em
>>
>> Negative distances don't behave well - toggle lines 4 and 5.
>>
>> What can we do to control the space between numeral and text? Thank
>> you in advance.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Idris
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
>> to the Wiki!
>>
>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> Wolfgang Schuster <mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>
>> 25. Juni 2018 um 13:41
>> To number paragraphs you can create a counter with \definelabel.
>>
>>
>> \definelabel[Paragraph][text=,numberstopper={.},headcommand=\groupedcommand{}{ }]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \stopchapter
>>
>> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>
>> \stopchapter
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
>> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
>> 25. Juni 2018 um 14:58
>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 05:41:15 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
>> <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To number paragraphs you can create a counter with \definelabel.
>>
>> Yes - and tested some paragraph options yesterday. Many thanks for the
>> sample below.
>>
>> But this particular project is very large with countless
>> cross-references already in place that depend on the subsectioning
>> mechanism. Is there a workaround that will avoid major surgery to the
>> main text?
>>
>> Also, subsubsections and subsubsubsections are still needed, as well
>> as resetting the counters after each chapter etc..
>>
>> In other words, what's needed is all the features of subsection
>> without the titling. Just as
>>
>> \start|stoptitle \start|stopsubject [etc.]
>>
>> give titling without sectioning numerals, we need something like
>>
>> \start|stoplabeling \start|stopsublabeling
>>
>> to get sectioning numerals without titling.
>>
>> (This is usually not a big deal except in cases like [alternative=text])
>>
>> (And on a very tight deadline so there is little (= no) time to
>> rebuild structure from scratch. Better to configure subsection to do
>> what's needed, and perhaps use a different method for the next big
>> project.)
>>
>> So is there a way this can be done? Many thanks for your insights and
>> help.
>>
>> Idris
>>
>>> \definelabel[Paragraph][text=,numberstopper={.},headcommand=\groupedcommand{}{
>>> }]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>>>
>>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>>
>>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>>
>>> \stopchapter
>>>
>>> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>>>
>>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>>
>>> \Paragraph\input ward
>>>
>>> \stopchapter
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> Can this be made into
>>
>>> Wolfgang
>>>
>>>> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
>>>> 25. Juni 2018 um 04:45
>>>> Dear gang,
>>>>
>>>> Here's an interesting one, attached and below:
>>>>
>>>> =======
>>>> \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal]
>>>> \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
>>>> \setuphead[subsection][criterium=local,distance=0em,sectionstopper=.]
>>>>
>>>> \starttext
>>>>
>>>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>>>> \startsubsection%[title={First}]
>>>> \input ward
>>>> \stopsubsection
>>>> \startsubsection%[title={Second}]
>>>> \input ward
>>>> \stopsubsection
>>>> \stopchapter
>>>>
>>>> \startchapter[title={Second},reference={}]
>>>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>>>> \input ward
>>>> \stopsubsection
>>>> \startsubsection%[title={}]
>>>> \input ward
>>>> \stopsubsection
>>>> \stopchapter
>>>> \stoptext
>>>> =======
>>>>
>>>> Our subsections do not have titles. The space between the subsection
>>>> numeral and the text is too large, even with
>>>>
>>>> distance=0em
>>>>
>>>> Negative distances don't behave well - toggle lines 4 and 5.
>>>>
>>>> What can we do to control the space between numeral and text? Thank
>>>> you in advance.
>>
>
>
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