Re: Referencing footnotes by SECTION

["Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد" <Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>]

On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 07:21:19 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster  
<schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
>> 2. Juli 2018 um 14:34
>> Hi Wolfgang,
>>
>> On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:58:44 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
>> <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Idris,
>>>
>>> you can enable the display of chapter numbers with the prefix-key:
>>>
>>> \setupnotation
>>>    [footnote]
>>>    [prefix=yes,
>>>    %prefixsegments=chapter,
>>>     way=bychapter]
>>
>> Many thanks for this. There is an unwanted side-effect: Let
>>
>> marker    = main-text footnote marker
>> header    = numeral for footnote header
>> reference = reference numeral
>>
>> The prefix appears in three places, e.g.,
>>
>> marker    - II.1
>> header    - II.1
>> reference - II.1
>>
>> but we only want the prefix in the reference, not anywhere else, e.g.,
>>
>> marker    - 1
>> header    - 1
>> reference - II.1
>>
>> The prefix in the main-text marker and in the footnote header are
>> superfluous, e.g., the reader already knows which chapter one is
>> reading. But to reference a footnote from a later chapter, a prefix is
>> needed to let the reader know which chapter.
>>
>> So the question is: Can the prefix be made to apply only to the
>> reference and not the marker or notation header?
>
> You have to set different prefixsegments settings for the note entries
> and the references.
>
>
> \defineconversionset [OLIE] [n,R,n,n,n,n] [n]
>
> \setuphead
>    [sectionconversionset=OLIE]
>
> \setupnotation
>    [footnote]
>    [prefix=yes,
>     prefixset=none]
>
> \setupreferencestructureprefix
>    [footnote]
>    [default]
>    [prefixsegments=chapter,
>     prefixset=all]
>
> \starttext
>
> \chapter{Chapter}
>
> Hey\footnote[listen]{This is a footnote.}
>
> See \in{footnote}[listen].
>
> \stoptext

Excellent; this is a big help. Many thanks!

>> ==============
>> Observation:
>>
>> For endnotes at the end of a book having the prefix in the header is
>> also useful, i.e.,
>>
>> marker    - 1
>> header    - II.1
>> reference - II.1
>>
>> So a general mechanism to set the prefix for each of the above three
>> would be useful.
>>
>> If not currently supported, would like to make this a feature request.
>> ==============
>
> I don’t think this is possible because marker and header share the same
> counter setups.

Ok, that makes sense. As always, thank you for your pointers and  
explanations!

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512
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