Re: Referencing footnotes by SECTION

["Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد" <Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>]

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Hi Wolfgang,

On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:58:44 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster  
<schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Idris,
>
> you can enable the display of chapter numbers with the prefix-key:
>
> \setupnotation
>    [footnote]
>    [prefix=yes,
>    %prefixsegments=chapter,
>     way=bychapter]

Many thanks for this. There is an unwanted side-effect: Let

marker    = main-text footnote marker
header    = numeral for footnote header
reference = reference numeral

The prefix appears in three places, e.g.,

marker    - II.1
header    - II.1
reference - II.1

but we only want the prefix in the reference, not anywhere else, e.g.,

marker    - 1
header    - 1
reference - II.1

The prefix in the main-text marker and in the footnote header are  
superfluous, e.g., the reader already knows which chapter one is reading.  
But to reference a footnote from a later chapter, a prefix is needed to  
let the reader know which chapter.

So the question is: Can the prefix be made to apply only to the reference  
and not the marker or notation header?

==============
Observation:

For endnotes at the end of a book having the prefix in the header is also  
useful, i.e.,

marker    - 1
header    - II.1
reference - II.1

So a general mechanism to set the prefix for each of the above three would  
be useful.

If not currently supported, would like to make this a feature request.
==============

Thank you again, Wolfgang.

Best wishes
Idris

>> Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu>
>> 30. Juni 2018 um 23:04
>> Dear gang,
>>
>> When referencing footnotes that reset each chapter, is there a way to
>> include the chapter information? See attached and below:
>>
>> =======
>> \setuphead[chapter]   [alternative=normal,conversion=R]
>> \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
>> \setuphead[subsection][distance=0em,
>>                        textdistance=0.7em,
>>                        sectionstopper=.,
>>                        criterium=local]
>>
>> \setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
>>
>> \setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default]
>>                                [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace]
>>
>> \setupwhitespace[big]
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
>> \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference1}]
>> \input ward
>> \startfootnote[footnote1]
>> \input ward
>> \stopfootnote{}
>>
>> See \in{Footnote}[footnote2].
>> \stopsubsection
>> \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference2}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \stopchapter
>>
>> \startchapter[title={Second}]
>> \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference3}]
>> \input ward
>> \stopsubsection
>> \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference5}]
>> \input ward
>> \startfootnote[footnote2]
>> \input ward
>> \stopfootnote{}
>>
>> See \in{Footnote}[footnote1].
>> \stopsubsection
>> \stopchapter
>> \stoptext
>> =======
>>
>> If line 8 is commented -
>> \setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
>> - we get what we expect. But if line 8 is activated, we get an
>> ambiguity: Both references give back
>>
>>  "Footnote 1"
>>
>> Whereas what we would like is something like this:
>>
>>  Footnote  I.1
>>
>> i.e., Chapter I, Footnote 1 - for the first footnote; and
>>
>>  Footnote II.1
>>
>> i.e., Chapter II, Footnote 1 - for the second footnote.
>>
>> Is there a straightforward way to do this?
>>
>> [[Of course, for the roman chapter numbering we also run into the
>> reference-numberconversionset issue of the other thread, where
>>
>> \definestructureconversionset[OLIE][n,R,n,n,n,n][n]
>> \setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default]
>>                                [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace,
>>                                 numberconversionset=OLIE]
>>
>> doesn't seem to work.]]
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any guidance or pointers you can provide!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Idris
>


-- 
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512

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