From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17881 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Idris Samawi Hamid Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: dictionary for TeX,/ConTeXt Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:45:01 -0700 Organization: Colorado State University Message-ID: References: <421F8EB0@webmail.colostate.edu> <41EB036D.1090106@guest.arnes.si> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1105998237 13341 80.91.229.6 (17 Jan 2005 21:43:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jan 17 22:43:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cqef7-0000Ri-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:43:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557EB12772; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:43:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11628-03; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:43:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E441276D; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:43:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCABD1276D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:43:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11570-04 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:43:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from eagle.colostate.edu (unknown [129.82.100.90]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C85B1276C for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:43:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lamar.colostate.edu (lamar.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.75]) by eagle.colostate.edu (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j0HLhhr1291414 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:43:43 -0700 Original-Received: from IHAMID (ihamid.libarts.colostate.edu [129.82.187.166]) by lamar.colostate.edu (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j0HLhhX360994 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:43:43 -0700 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <41EB036D.1090106@guest.arnes.si> User-Agent: Opera7.23/Win32 M2 build 3227 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17881 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17881 > It has nothing to do with keyboard, only with the software use use. > But, hmmm, see ... http://www.winedt.org/poll.php > > Unicode support is one of the "which features do you miss most?", so it= =20 > doesn't really look promising, at least not yet. Ok, I voted, but I actually corresponded with the developer (Alex) a few=20 months ago and this is what he said: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am afraid that UNICODE will not be supported just yet. In part, because I am overwhelmed with feature requests (including requests for Linux versions) and I just cannot keep up with it - WinEdt is still a one-programmer project. The other reason is that Delphi 7 still does not support UNICODE in its controls (VCL) and that would require quite some low level programming or shopping for third party unicode compatible VCL extensions. Finally, the request for UNICODE among WinEdt users at the moment is still moderate and since implementation is non-trivial and requires a lot of testing it is not top priority. If/when I embark on a new major version of WinEdt I'll take UNICODE and BiDi support into design consideration from start. Right now it would be a lot of patching and more problems that I can handle. But I would like to rewrite WinEdt and fix the problems that were inherited from the original design (from 1993) when computers were slow, memory was low and Windows 3.1 crashed regularly... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > vim supports UTF (I have problems typing UTF under windows) and most=20 > advanced text editors should support it also; I use scite for=20 > (Con)TeX(t) in unicode recently. I've just found=20 > http://dev.remotenetworktechnology.com/SciTE/WordCheck.vbs.txt on=20 > internet, which is probably exactly the thing Ciro was looking for, but= =20 > I wasn't able to execute it, maybe I have some programs missing. > In any case, I don't think there is any Unicode/bidi editor better than=20 UniPad http://www.unipad.org/main/ Absolutely no TeX-friendly features, so I now edit my Arabic in UniPad an= d=20 do TeX in WinEdt. In particular, UniPad (Unicode 4.0 compliant) (1) handles virtually all accents and diacritics (whereas most editors=20 with some unicode/bidi support do not support all needed Arabic accents);= =20 and (2) implements these in a most innovative/friendly one-dimensional=20 fashion, (unlike all others, in which it is a pain to edit accents and=20 diacritics--due to their 2-dimensional nature); I mention this in detail because if the scite people decide to implement=20 some unicode support, then UniPad is the best paradigm to look at,=20 particularly for bidi and Arabic accents. If Hans or anyone else has=20 influence with the Scite developers, please pass this on, and I'll be=20 happy to help anyone interested in the Arabic aspects of bidi-unicode=20 implementation (testing, etc.). Best Idris --=20 Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523