footnotes are lost!! endnotes don't work ? (URGENT)

footnotes are lost!! endnotes don't work ? (URGENT)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

as the commands "location=text" and "\placefootnotes" seemed to be unproblematic I decided to edit a book in ConTeXt with footnotes as endnotes - at the end of each chapter.

Unfortunately there seems to be a bug:
My first chapter has 57 footnotes.
The first 17 footnotes fit (touching the bottom edge) on the first page (after the chapters end)
and the following 40 are lost!

Is this a known bug?

Does anybody know what to do?



Thank you very much,

Steffen


P.S. This is urgent - because when endnotes doesn't work properly I can't make the book in ConTeXt and so I have a big problem ...

Re: footnotes are lost!! endnotes don't work ? (URGENT)

[Hans Hagen]

At 18:23 09/01/2004, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>as the commands "location=text" and "\placefootnotes" seemed to be 
>unproblematic I decided to edit a book in ConTeXt with footnotes as 
>endnotes - at the end of each chapter.
>
>Unfortunately there seems to be a bug:
>My first chapter has 57 footnotes.
>The first 17 footnotes fit (touching the bottom edge) on the first page 
>(after the chapters end)
>and the following 40 are lost!
>
>Is this a known bug?
>
>Does anybody know what to do?

For the moment use:

\setupfootnotes[location={text,none}]

\starttext

\dorecurse{100}{test \footnote{test} \endgraf}

\placefootnotes

\stoptext

else the notes get boxed and treated as a whole (so that they can have 
backgrounds and so).

Hans  

Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[John McChesney-Young]

Dear Listmembers,

Is there a command or work-around in ConTeXt that's comparable to 
Plain TeX's \vfootnote, to generate a footnote without a reference 
mark in the text? I found options for marks with numbers, Roman 
numerals, and letters (cont-enp.pdf, p. 83/99) but nothing for an 
invisible mark.

I apologize for what might be a very obvious question, but I don't 
find an answer in the manual nor via a Google advanced search of the 
Pragma-ADE domain. I checked the archives and found a discussion from 
last February in which Idris Hamid asked about changing symbol 
options, to which Hans Hagen helpfully responded with a sample set-up:

\setupfootnotes
    [conversion=HowAboutIt]

\defineconversion
    [HowAboutIt]
    [One,Two,Three]

I tried substituting both \null and {} for the "One,Two,Three" but 
neither worked.

There was also some discussion of a proposed command 
\setupfootnotemarker early and late last year, but I wasn't clear on 
whether or how it had been implemented.

I've also been following the French hyphenation thread with some 
interest; my outputs of all the samples posted so far (with TeXShop 
1.34) have unfortunately displayed <A-macron><copyright symbol> for 
the original <e-aigue>, and the word at the line end doesn't 
hyphenate (the console reports an overfull \hbox, as I would expect).

I'm very new to *TeX, have always worked with Macs (since OS 7.1), 
and have essentially no Unix experience, so answers that assume 
wholesale ignorance will be best appreciated and understood. :-)

Thanks very much!

John
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Re: Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[Adam Lindsay]

John McChesney-Young said this at Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:18:07 -0800:

>I've also been following the French hyphenation thread with some 
>interest; my outputs of all the samples posted so far (with TeXShop 
>1.34) have unfortunately displayed <A-macron><copyright symbol> for 
>the original <e-aigue>, and the word at the line end doesn't 
>hyphenate (the console reports an overfull \hbox, as I would expect).
>
>I'm very new to *TeX, have always worked with Macs (since OS 7.1), 
>and have essentially no Unix experience, so answers that assume 
>wholesale ignorance will be best appreciated and understood. :-)

Hi, John.

As you're on a mac, you're probably cut/pasting from your mail client
into your editor of choice (TeXShop? iTeXMac?). Most likely that client
is saving your source file in Mac encoding. Therefore, you should be using:
  \useregime[mac]
Instead of win or il1. 

Hope that solves the A-macron problem, at least.

adam

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Re: Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[John McChesney-Young]

Adam kindly suggested:

>As you're on a mac, you're probably cut/pasting from your mail client
>into your editor of choice (TeXShop? iTeXMac?).

Yes I did, into TeXShop.

  Most likely that client
>is saving your source file in Mac encoding. Therefore, you should be using:
>   \useregime[mac]
>Instead of win or il1.
>Hope that solves the A-macron problem, at least.

I was experimenting with the example posted by 
Peter Münster, with a few more accented 
évolutions to put them well into another line:

\fr
\useencoding[ec]
\enableregime[il1]
\starttext
évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution
évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution évolution

evolution evolution evolution evolution evolution evolution evolution
evolution evolution
\stoptext

When I replaced the \enableregime[il1] with 
\useregime[Mac] and saved the document in TeXShop 
with MacOSRoman encoding the problem is ... um 
... solved by the output completely ignoring the 
first letter and turning the first word into 
"volution"!

However, when I change the command sequence to 
\enableregime[Mac] instead of \useregime the 
e-aigue *does* work, so thank you very much! It 
still doesn't hyphenate, but it's a step in the 
right direction. Here's the Overfull \hbox 
message from the console, on the off-chance it's 
relevant for the hyphenation problem:

Overfull \hbox (17.09685pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 5--7
[]/cmr12/^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sev
olution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution ^^Sevolution
[1.1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]
systems        : end file frenchtest at line 10

(end quote)

Thank you very much for the solution to the 
diacritical problem! Now I'm going to have to 
look in the manual for the difference between 
\useregime and \enableregime...

John
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Re: Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, John McChesney-Young wrote:

> right direction. Here's the Overfull \hbox
> message from the console, on the off-chance it's
> relevant for the hyphenation problem:

Hello John,
if I understand it right, the hyphenation problem is related to the font:
to get correct hyphenation, the accented characters have to be in the font,
as they are in Latin Modern or EC. In CM the é is a composition of an e and
the accent.
* Latin Modern: works out of the box with the latest ConTeXt, but is still
  in development, the kerning for example has to be improved (see
  http://pc52.ifw.ing.tu-bs.de/~harders/latex/lmodern.html).
  It's a PS Type 1 font.
* EC: seems to be difficult to support with ConTeXt, but I'll try it.
  It's a MetaFont font (bitmap).

> Thank you very much for the solution to the
> diacritical problem! Now I'm going to have to
> look in the manual for the difference between
> \useregime and \enableregime...

It's not in the manual, but it seems that \useregime does nothing, it only
pre-loads a "regime" to make it available for an \enableregime
command. Since there is already a "\useregime[def,uni,ibm,win,il1,mac]" in
regi-ini.tex, you'll need an extra \useregime only for other regimes.

Cheers, Peter

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address labels

[R. Ermers]

Hi contexers,

I am trying to make context do what I want. What I needed this weekend, are
address labels, which I want to fill with my own logo (not the addresse's).

Making one label is no problem, but I rather would like to have context make
and typeset a large number of them on a sheet, to be precise: 9x3 (sizes:
7mm x 32mm).

Does anyone have a clue how this can be done?

Kind regards,

Robert Ermers

Re: address labels

[Hans Hagen]

At 11:37 11/01/2004, you wrote:
>Hi contexers,
>
>I am trying to make context do what I want. What I needed this weekend, are
>address labels, which I want to fill with my own logo (not the addresse's).
>
>Making one label is no problem, but I rather would like to have context make
>and typeset a large number of them on a sheet, to be precise: 9x3 (sizes:
>7mm x 32mm).
>
>Does anyone have a clue how this can be done?

\definepapersize
   [label]
   [width=10cm,
    height=3cm]

\setuppapersize
   [label]
   [A4]

% either use:

% \setuplayout [nx=2,ny=8]

% or use

\setuppapersize [nx=2,ny=8] \setuparranging [XY]

% sample

\starttext

\showframe

\startstandardmakeup
   test test
\stopstandardmakeup

\startstandardmakeup
   more more
\stopstandardmakeup

\stoptext

(there is also an interactive interface to this, but i've no time to 
explain that now)

Hans  

Re: address labels

[Willi Egger]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 845 bytes --]

Hi Robert,

while composing my solution to your question Hans was of course faster 
and gives immediately multiple approaches.
You might want to have a look at my solution because it is basically 
intended to print addres-labels.
Because of restriction of the meilinglist the picture is not included, 
but you can simply replace the picture in the
logo definition ...

Success!
Kind regards Willi

R. Ermers wrote:

>Hi contexers,
>
>I am trying to make context do what I want. What I needed this weekend, are
>address labels, which I want to fill with my own logo (not the addresse's).
>
>Making one label is no problem, but I rather would like to have context make
>and typeset a large number of them on a sheet, to be precise: 9x3 (sizes:
>7mm x 32mm).
>
>Does anyone have a clue how this can be done?
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Robert Ermers
>  
>

[-- Attachment #2: logos.tex --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 1474 bytes --]

% Etiketten for address labels format 45 by 100mm
% Context file
% filename: logos.tex
% Willi Egger
% january 2004

\setupoutput[pdftex]

\mainlanguage[nl]
\language[nl]
\setuppagenumber[state=stop]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\usetypescript[modern][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[modern,ss,12pt]

\definepapersize[Etiket][height=42.3mm,width=105mm]
\setuppapersize [Etiket][A4,portrait]
\setuppaper
    [topspace=0mm,
    backspace=0mm,
    dx=2mm,
    dy=0mm,
    nx=2,
    ny=7,
    margin=0,
    width=210mm,
    height=297mm]
\setuplayout
    [topspace=4mm,
    backspace=8mm,
    margin=0mm,
    width=96mm,
    height=34mm,
    header=0mm,
    footer=0mm]
\setuparranging[XY]

\definelayer[Etiket][width=\textwidth, height=\textheight]
\setupframedtexts[frame=off,width=\textwidth]

\def\Logo%
    {\externalfigure[wooden_coptic][height=\textheight]}

%\input adreslist         %Contains the addresses as given below:

% \startbuffer[Adr1]
%    \framedtext{%
%    \startlines
%    Mr. Robert Ermers \\
%    \CONTEXT-technician\\
%    Whereeverstreet 5\\
%    7000 \TEX land
%    \stoplines}
% \stopbuffer

\def\Addresses{10}

\showframe

\starttext
\dorecurse{\Addresses}{%
    \setlayer
       [Etiket]
       [preset=leftbottom,location={right,top},y=-3mm,x=-3mm]
       {\switchtobodyfont[10pt]\getbuffer[Adr\recurselevel]}
    \setlayer
      [Etiket]
      [preset=lefttop,location={right,bottom}]
      {\switchtobodyfont[5pt]\Logo}
    \placelayer[Etiket]}
\stoptext

Re: address labels

[R. Ermers]

Thank you, Hans and Willi, for your replies!

Kind regards,

Robert Ermers

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: Willi Egger <w.egger@boede.nl>
Aan: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Verzonden: zondag 11 januari 2004 12:55
Onderwerp: Re: [NTG-context] address labels


> Hi Robert,
>
> while composing my solution to your question Hans was of course faster
> and gives immediately multiple approaches.
> You might want to have a look at my solution because it is basically
> intended to print addres-labels.
> Because of restriction of the meilinglist the picture is not included,
> but you can simply replace the picture in the
> logo definition ...
>
> Success!
> Kind regards Willi
>
> R. Ermers wrote:
>
> >Hi contexers,
> >
> >I am trying to make context do what I want. What I needed this weekend,
are
> >address labels, which I want to fill with my own logo (not the
addresse's).
> >
> >Making one label is no problem, but I rather would like to have context
make
> >and typeset a large number of them on a sheet, to be precise: 9x3 (sizes:
> >7mm x 32mm).
> >
> >Does anyone have a clue how this can be done?
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >
> >Robert Ermers
> >
> >
>


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----


> % Etiketten for address labels format 45 by 100mm
> % Context file
> % filename: logos.tex
> % Willi Egger
> % january 2004
>
> \setupoutput[pdftex]
>
> \mainlanguage[nl]
> \language[nl]
> \setuppagenumber[state=stop]
> \setupcolors[state=start]
> \usetypescript[modern][texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[modern,ss,12pt]
>
> \definepapersize[Etiket][height=42.3mm,width=105mm]
> \setuppapersize [Etiket][A4,portrait]
> \setuppaper
>     [topspace=0mm,
>     backspace=0mm,
>     dx=2mm,
>     dy=0mm,
>     nx=2,
>     ny=7,
>     margin=0,
>     width=210mm,
>     height=297mm]
> \setuplayout
>     [topspace=4mm,
>     backspace=8mm,
>     margin=0mm,
>     width=96mm,
>     height=34mm,
>     header=0mm,
>     footer=0mm]
> \setuparranging[XY]
>
> \definelayer[Etiket][width=\textwidth, height=\textheight]
> \setupframedtexts[frame=off,width=\textwidth]
>
> \def\Logo%
>     {\externalfigure[wooden_coptic][height=\textheight]}
>
> %\input adreslist         %Contains the addresses as given below:
>
> % \startbuffer[Adr1]
> %    \framedtext{%
> %    \startlines
> %    Mr. Robert Ermers \\
> %    \CONTEXT-technician\\
> %    Whereeverstreet 5\\
> %    7000 \TEX land
> %    \stoplines}
> % \stopbuffer
>
> \def\Addresses{10}
>
> \showframe
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{\Addresses}{%
>     \setlayer
>        [Etiket]
>        [preset=leftbottom,location={right,top},y=-3mm,x=-3mm]
>        {\switchtobodyfont[10pt]\getbuffer[Adr\recurselevel]}
>     \setlayer
>       [Etiket]
>       [preset=lefttop,location={right,bottom}]
>       {\switchtobodyfont[5pt]\Logo}
>     \placelayer[Etiket]}
> \stoptext
>

Re: Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[John McChesney-Young]

Dear Peter,

Thank you very much for your clear and simple response.

You wrote:

>to get correct hyphenation, the accented characters have to be in the font,
>as they are in Latin Modern or EC. In CM the é is a composition of an e and
>the accent.

Now I understand. That makes a great deal of sense.

I followed the installation instructions at:

http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/texshop.html

for i-Installer and that included downloading 
(and I assume i-Installer installing) the 
CM-Super fonts. Since the readme says:

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/cm-super/README

"All European and Cyrillic writings are covered," 
would that mean that using CM-Super rather than 
CM would solve the problem? How do I get ConTeXt 
to switch to Super? Or am I missing something 
painfully obvious (as with composite vs. unitary 
symbols)?

The readme also says, "The goal was to provide 
full support for a wide number of fonts used in 
LaTeX," which makes me suspect that I'll either 
have to move files around or somehow convert them 
for use by ConTeXt, but if someone could explain 
exactly how (and your saying that EC seems to be 
difficult to support with ConTeXt makes me think 
this process might not be trivial) I'd appreciate 
it, although if necessary I can just try to 
figure it out from the CM-Super FAQ and readme 
and Installation documents. I expect it would 
improve my character to do so, but I'm not sure I 
want it improved quite that much.

>It's not in the manual, but it seems that \useregime does nothing, it only
>pre-loads a "regime" to make it available for an \enableregime
>command. Since there is already a "\useregime[def,uni,ibm,win,il1,mac]" in
>regi-ini.tex, you'll need an extra \useregime only for other regimes.

Thank you for explaining this as well, and for 
saving me a fruitless search in the manual.

Best,

John
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Re: Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[Hans Hagen]

At 18:18 10/01/2004, you wrote:
>Dear Listmembers,
>
>Is there a command or work-around in ConTeXt that's comparable to Plain 
>TeX's \vfootnote, to generate a footnote without a reference mark in the 
>text? I found options for marks with numbers, Roman numerals, and letters 
>(cont-enp.pdf, p. 83/99) but nothing for an invisible mark.

\starttext

test \footnote[-]{whatever}

\stoptext 

Re: Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[John McChesney-Young]

I had asked:

>>Is there a command or work-around in ConTeXt that's comparable to 
>>Plain TeX's \vfootnote, to generate a footnote without a reference 
>>mark in the text? >>

and Hans kindly responded with:

>\starttext
>
>test \footnote[-]{whatever}
>
>\stoptext

Thank you very much, Hans! It worked perfectly. I also discovered 
that the Plain TeX sequence:

test \footnote[-]{{${}^1$}whatever}

can be used with the bracketed hyphen to number the note itself while 
leaving the text unsullied (which I mention in case it's not obvious 
to some current or future reader of this thread); the superscript 
math snippet can also be put elsewhere in the footnote than the 
beginning, if one is so inclined.

Thanks again.

John

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Re: Footnotes Without Text Marks?

[Hans Hagen]

At 22:30 13/01/2004, you wrote:

>test \footnote[-]{{${}^1$}whatever}

\footnote[-]{\high{1}whatever}