From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/27387 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: olivier Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: 2c considerations about win installer Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:26:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <60f8c1827dc0a7c7006ddc52611e9944@di.unito.it> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145708826 12660 80.91.229.2 (22 Apr 2006 12:27:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Apr 22 14:27:04 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXHCZ-0001od-3N for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:27:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEDF12795; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:27:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13261-01; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8738B1278B; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D892F1278B for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09033-06 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id B0B0D1277B for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FXHCO-0001ne-7H for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:52 +0200 Original-Received: from sju13-2-82-225-94-181.fbx.proxad.net ([82.225.94.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:52 +0200 Original-Received: from o.turlier by sju13-2-82-225-94-181.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-Lines: 73 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sju13-2-82-225-94-181.fbx.proxad.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:27387 Archived-At: On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:33:04 +0200, andrea valle wrote: > Dear all, > I'm using conTeXt to create automatic documentation about sound = > classification. The idea is that starting from an html file collecting = > infos about sounds my program can generate some schematic images using = > R and POV-Ray and to create a conTeXt file including both images and = > textual information. > = > Now, I'd like to share this work with my students. I'm on macosx, = > they're typically on win. My program is in python so it's = > cross-platform, so no problem. Obviously they can annotate sounds, = > generate images and include them manually in a MS word file. But I'd = > prefer that they compile the conTeXt file. > = > On two win machines I tried to install conTeXt using the complete = > package (shipped with Scite: nice). I had always (different) troubles = > (on each machine) with environment variable (e.g. for Perl): actually = > I'm not able to run conTeXt. > = > Hacking a bit, eventually asking the list, I think I will solve the = > problem. But I don't think that my students can do, as I suspect that = > they probably not even know what is PATH. And I cannot help them on = > each installation. > = > So, more generally, I was asking myself if it would not be possible = > (and better) to have an .exe installer as usual happens in win, = > including Perl, maybe Ruby (+ or- 20 Mb doesn't change too much). = > Double click, and it set ups all the installation parameters. A = > completely autonomous installer would allow many people to try, use = > and get fond conTeXt (and maybe to leave Word) without having to = > struggle with problems which typically lead people to leave out. > = > It seems to me that a similar installer would be a refinement in the = > spirit of the actual mswincontext distro. > At the end, it's not that far form Gerben's distro on macosx. It does = > everything for me... > Or maybe am I missing something? > = > Just my 2 c > = > Best > = > -a- > = > = > = > Andrea Valle > DAMS - Facolt=E0 di Scienze della Formazione > Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino > http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea > andrea.valle@unito.it If I'm not wrong, If you go on http://www.pragma-ade.com/dir/context/install/ (click documents > directory view > context > install), you will find that the bigger *.zip (cdwincontext.zip) contains Perl & Ruby, while mswincontext.zip no. So you can run Context out of the box with cdwincontext. (untested, because I got Perl & Ruby already) Your students can also install Ruby (single click .exe : Rubyinstaller from : http://rubyforge.org/frs/download.php/9417/ruby184-16_rc1.exe) = and Perl (single click .exe : activePerl :http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/) whithout any pb's of adding new executables to the path, since it's done while installation. = Cheers -- = olivier Turlier