From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10420 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2023 00:07:39 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Jun 2023 00:07:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51381C392D; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:07:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6GXLlg8eQlH; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AA71C38E2; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D371C38E2 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:07:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QyIxl5M2bMyU for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:06:57 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=116.202.254.214; helo=ciao.gmane.io; envelope-from=gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; receiver= Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A25621C15A9 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:06:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qAJSw-0000VH-QG for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:06:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:06:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <161B7310-CACD-4112-9715-4C6F8AFD9F95@rna.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <161B7310-CACD-4112-9715-4C6F8AFD9F95@rna.nl> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world? X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: linguafalsa--- via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: linguafalsa@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:49PM +0200, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wro= te: > I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of= the best places to find an answer. > = It is the best community. And I tell you what. = What happened is that all TeX engines have neglected fonts from the beginni= ng. = > I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared styl= e'. > = > But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensi= ng freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The = only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones i= n Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like I= nDesign (and not TeX). > = Licensing freedom is an oxymoron. There's no freedom in licensing. Only greed. = The only extension engine that at one point had a plan in mind, or most of the bases covered in this regard was Omega. When it came to commercial fonts the plan of action ahead was by including PFC data on these very same commercial fonts that would benefit primarily its opentype versions in the long run. What do you have right now? Opentype fonts only. Sure. Quality can be even the same than its type1 counterpart, and at times not so much according so some folks that have bothered to go the extra length in making the most accurate comparison that's available between them two. But looking at it from a bright side/perspective, I think we're no longer facing the same pre-historic constraints of including a font as before, as long as it's not for commercial purposes, You are well aware of these non and commercial uses even before your extensive search anyway, p.s many many years ago I read and followed some publications about the aformentioned extension and just went over them recently, to have an idea what did and did not work. In regards to typefaces, its goal was unmatched, or so I think. > I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic= , bold, and bold-italic. > = > Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so als= o for commercial use) to use out there? > = > Yours, > = > Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn , Masto= don ) > R&A IT Strategy (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise=A0Architecture > Book: Mastering ArchiMate > = > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! > = > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-c= ontext > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ -- = I must have slipped a disk -- my pack hurts! ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-con= text webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________