PDF bounding box problem?

PDF bounding box problem?

[cormullion]

I’m trying to place a PDF created by Adobe Illustrator 10 using \externalfigure. But it’s coming in with loads of white space around it.

Although I’m new to ConTeXt, this reminds me of the old problem where there are different types of ‘box’ specified in the PDF file: one possibly specifying a paper size, others specifying perhaps the extent of the marks described within. The PDF file contains these ‘box’ lines:

> /MediaBox [ 0.5 -0.5 612.5 791.5 ] 
> /ArtBox [ 206.97998 316.0459 402.12988 477.66016 ] 
> %%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
> %%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
> %AI3_TemplateBox: 306.5 395.5 306.5 395.5
> %AI3_TileBox: 30 35 582 761
> %%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
> %%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
> %%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
> %%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
> %AI3_TemplateBox: 306.5 395.5 306.5 395.5
> %AI3_TileBox: 30 35 582 761
> /FontBBox [ -167 -250 1006 939 ] 
> /FontBBox [ -222 -250 1006 922 ] 

To my untutored eye it looks like the MediaBox is being used - at least, the graphic takes up  an area about Letter size.  Is there some setting I’ve missed that lets me get the bounds of the graphics rather than the file?

thanks!

Re: PDF bounding box problem?

[Matthias Weber]

I usually save the graphics in an Illustrator document which has the 
dimensions and margins I want.

I don't know another way --

Matthias
On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:34 AM, cormullion wrote:

> I’m trying to place a PDF created by Adobe Illustrator 10 using 
> \externalfigure. But it’s coming in with loads of white space around 
> it.
>
> Although I’m new to ConTeXt, this reminds me of the old problem where 
> there are different types of ‘box’ specified in the PDF file: one 
> possibly specifying a paper size, others specifying perhaps the extent 
> of the marks described within. The PDF file contains these ‘box’ 
> lines:
>
>> /MediaBox [ 0.5 -0.5 612.5 791.5 ]
>> /ArtBox [ 206.97998 316.0459 402.12988 477.66016 ]
>> %%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
>> %%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
>> %AI3_TemplateBox: 306.5 395.5 306.5 395.5
>> %AI3_TileBox: 30 35 582 761
>> %%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
>> %%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
>> %%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
>> %%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
>> %AI3_TemplateBox: 306.5 395.5 306.5 395.5
>> %AI3_TileBox: 30 35 582 761
>> /FontBBox [ -167 -250 1006 939 ]
>> /FontBBox [ -222 -250 1006 922 ]
>
> To my untutored eye it looks like the MediaBox is being used - at 
> least, the graphic takes up  an area about Letter size.  Is there some 
> setting I’ve missed that lets me get the bounds of the graphics rather 
> than the file?
>
> thanks!
>
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Re: PDF bounding box problem?

[Hans Hagen]

cormullion wrote:
> I’m trying to place a PDF created by Adobe Illustrator 10 using \externalfigure. But it’s coming in with loads of white space around it.
> 
> Although I’m new to ConTeXt, this reminds me of the old problem where there are different types of ‘box’ specified in the PDF file: one possibly specifying a paper size, others specifying perhaps the extent of the marks described within. The PDF file contains these ‘box’ lines:
> 
> 
>>/MediaBox [ 0.5 -0.5 612.5 791.5 ] 
>>/ArtBox [ 206.97998 316.0459 402.12988 477.66016 ] 
>>%%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
>>%%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
>>%AI3_TemplateBox: 306.5 395.5 306.5 395.5
>>%AI3_TileBox: 30 35 582 761
>>%%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
>>%%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
>>%%BoundingBox: 206 316 403 478
>>%%HiResBoundingBox: 206.98 316.0459 402.1299 477.6602
>>%AI3_TemplateBox: 306.5 395.5 306.5 395.5
>>%AI3_TileBox: 30 35 582 761
>>/FontBBox [ -167 -250 1006 939 ] 
>>/FontBBox [ -222 -250 1006 922 ] 
> 
> 
> To my untutored eye it looks like the MediaBox is being used - at least, the graphic takes up  an area about Letter size.  Is there some setting I’ve missed that lets me get the bounds of the graphics rather than the file?

\externalfigure[whatever.pdf][width=10cm,size=artbox]

Hans


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Re: PDF bounding box problem?

[cormullion]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> said on 2005-02-09, 18:20 (+0100 GMT):

>> To my untutored eye it looks like the MediaBox is being
>> used - at least, the graphic takes up  an area about
>> Letter size.  Is there  some setting I’ve missed that
>> lets me get the bounds of the graphics rather than the
>> file?
> 
> \externalfigure[whatever.pdf][width=10cm,size=artbox]

Great! I didn’t spot the artbox option...

thanks

Re: PDF bounding box problem?

[Hans Hagen]

cormullion wrote:
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> said on 2005-02-09, 18:20 (+0100 GMT):
> 
> 
>>>To my untutored eye it looks like the MediaBox is being
>>>used - at least, the graphic takes up  an area about
>>>Letter size.  Is there  some setting I’ve missed that
>>>lets me get the bounds of the graphics rather than the
>>>file?
>>
>>\externalfigure[whatever.pdf][width=10cm,size=artbox]
> 
> 
> Great! I didn’t spot the artbox option...

it's a rather new option, because pdftex only supports it in later versions

Hans

ps. be aware of the fact that sometimes those boxes are wrong; has to do with 
illustrator defaults and such (there is a technote on that on our site)

Hans


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RE: PDF bounding box problem?

[Martin Kolařík]

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Hi all,

I have problem with paragraph background in columnset environment:

\definetextbackground
  [TXBG]
  [frame=no,offset=0.25em,location=paragraph]

\definecolumnset[main][n=2]

\startcolumnset[main]
...
\starttextbackground[TXBG]
  \typebuffer[BUFFER]
\stoptextbackground
...
\stopcolumnset

Using the background in left column (as the text flows) causes shifting
whole column down }(including both text and properly placed background).

Sorry, I have no minimal example now, as the source is XML. But the mapping
macros lead into the code described above.

Are there some problems with backs in columnsets?

Thank you,

Martin

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cormullion wrote:
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> said on 2005-02-09, 18:20 (+0100 GMT):
> 
> 
>>>To my untutored eye it looks like the MediaBox is being
>>>used - at least, the graphic takes up  an area about
>>>Letter size.  Is there  some setting I’ve missed that
>>>lets me get the bounds of the graphics rather than the
>>>file?
>>
>>\externalfigure[whatever.pdf][width=10cm,size=artbox]
> 
> 
> Great! I didn’t spot the artbox option...

it's a rather new option, because pdftex only supports it in later versions

Hans

ps. be aware of the fact that sometimes those boxes are wrong; has to do
with 
illustrator defaults and such (there is a technote on that on our site)

Hans


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Re: PDF bounding box problem?

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolařík wrote:

> Using the background in left column (as the text flows) causes shifting
> whole column down }(including both text and properly placed background).
> 
> Sorry, I have no minimal example now, as the source is XML. But the mapping
> macros lead into the code described above.

maybe add some \ignorespaces to your xml mappin gcode helps; otherwise, i need 
an example

Hans


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