Re: Thumb indexes

Re: Thumb indexes

[cormullion]

Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> said on 2005-02-12, 21:19 (+0100 GMT):

> Perhaps describe a bit more exactly what you'd like to achieve.
> As far as I understood: You want a black rectangle at the margin
> that has no text in it, always same size, but moving position per 
> chapter?

Yes. More precisely, chapter 1 - 5 would have a black box in the margin at the top right of each right page, then chapters 6 to whatever have the next box below, and so on. I usually do this ‘manually’ in a DTP app (by defining a set of master pages and applying them selectively to a group of ‘chapters’) but ConTeXt is clearly capable of doing it automatically. And I bet ConTeXt could also be persuaded to place white text on the box as well...

I’ve read through the MetaFun manual. It’s amazing technology, but a bit too advanced for me at present.

Re: Thumb indexes

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 13.02.2005 um 00:12 schrieb cormullion:
>> Perhaps describe a bit more exactly what you'd like to achieve.
>> As far as I understood: You want a black rectangle at the margin
>> that has no text in it, always same size, but moving position per
>> chapter?
> Yes. More precisely, chapter 1 - 5 would have a black box in the 
> margin at the top right of each right page, then chapters 6 to 
> whatever have the next box below, and so on. I usually do this 
> ‘manually’ in a DTP app (by defining a set of master pages and 
> applying them selectively to a group of ‘chapters’) but ConTeXt is 
> clearly capable of doing it automatically. And I bet ConTeXt could 
> also be persuaded to place white text on the box as well...
> I’ve read through the MetaFun manual. It’s amazing technology, but a 
> bit too advanced for me at present.

As far as you only want rectangular boxes (even with round corners), 
you don't need MetaFun.

I guess you should define a "part"-based "logo" with an absolute, 
calculated position via the "layers" mechanism.
- part: even if you don't use the "part" hierarchy for other use, it 
would fit to chapter ranges. simply set the \part output to do nothing
- logo: some element that appears on every (or every right) page is 
called "logo", see http://www.contextgarden.net/Logos

I think that's about "how to do it The ConTeXt Way(TM)", but I can't 
tell you any code from heart, just try it yourself and ask again if you 
tried some steps - as far nobody else feels like giving you better 
advice.

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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http://contextgarden.net

Re: Thumb indexes

[cormullion]

Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> said on 2005-02-13, 11:12 (+0100 GMT):

> I guess you should define a "part"-based "logo" with an absolute, 
> calculated position via the "layers" mechanism.
> - part: even if you don't use the "part" hierarchy for other use, it 
> would fit to chapter ranges. simply set the \part output to do nothing
> - logo: some element that appears on every (or every right) page is 
> called "logo", see http://www.contextgarden.net/Logos

Good thinking. I’ll investigate. Thanks!

Re: Thumb indexes

[cormullion]

h h extern <pragma@wxs.nl> said on 2005-02-13, 15:18 (+0100 GMT):

> \unprotected \def\rawsectionnumber#1{\countervalue{\??se#1}} % will be in kernel
> [...] 

Awesome (and scary) stuff. Works great, too.

> you may only read this answer if you also put it in the wiki

OK, I’ll have a go.

Thanks for your help again.

Re: Thumb indexes

[h h extern]

cormullion wrote:

> My last question! :-)  I would like to have the various ‘parts’ of a book marked with black rectangles at the right side of each page, visible when the reader flips through the pages. I googled successfully to find ‘fancyhdr’, but that’s a LaTeX package, so I don’t think it will work in ConTeXt. If it’s not too difficult in ConTeXt, can anyone share the secret?

you may only read this answer if you also put it in the wiki


\unprotected \def\rawsectionnumber#1{\countervalue{\??se#1}} % will be in kernel

\setuppagenumbering
   [alternative=doublesided]

\setupcolors
   [state=start]

\setupbackgrounds
   [page]
   [background=thumbs]

\defineoverlay
   [thumbs]
   [\setups{thumbs}]

\def\NOfChapters{4} % i need to make this one available

\startsetups thumbs

     \definemeasure[thumbheight][\dimexpr\paperheight/\NOfChapters\relax]

     \vbox to \paperheight \bgroup
         \vskip \rawsectionnumber{section-2} \measure{thumbheight}
         \vskip -1                           \measure{thumbheight}
         \doifoddpageelse\hfill\donothing
         \framed
             [background=color,
              backgroundcolor=darkgray,
              frame=off,
              foregroundcolor=white,
              height=\measure{thumbheight},width=1cm]
             {\bfa \rawsectionnumber{section-2}}
         \doifoddpageelse\donothing\hfill
         \vss
     \egroup

\stopsetups

\starttext

\chapter{first}  \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte  }
\chapter{second} \dorecurse{10}{\input davis  }
\chapter{third}  \dorecurse{10}{\input zapf   }
\chapter{fourth} \dorecurse{10}{\input bryson }

\stoptext

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Re: Thumb indexes

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 12.02.2005 um 00:09 schrieb cormullion:
>> Perhaps you find out looking at the code in
>> http://contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_info_style (there are
>> nav tabs at the bottom).
> Thanks - I’m looking at it. It looks fairly advanced though :-) (I’ve 
> only been using ConTeXt for a few days...). How are you making a 
> chapter (say) show a mark depending on its number?

Sorry, I'm not that deep in ConTeXt myself, the code is mostly by Hans.
I hope someone other can help you.

Perhaps describe a bit more exactly what you'd like to achieve.
As far as I understood: You want a black rectangle at the margin
that has no text in it, always same size, but moving position per 
chapter?


Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
http://contextgarden.net

Re: Thumb indexes

[cormullion]

Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> said on 2005-02-11, 23:43 (+0100 GMT):

> Am 11.02.2005 um 23:19 schrieb cormullion:
> 
> > My last question! :-)  I would like to have the various ‘parts’ of a 
> > book marked with black rectangles at the right side of each page, 
> > visible when the reader flips through the pages.
> 
> Perhaps you find out looking at the code in
> http://contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_info_style (there are
> nav tabs at the bottom).

Thanks - I’m looking at it. It looks fairly advanced though :-) (I’ve only been using ConTeXt for a few days...). How are you making a chapter (say) show a mark depending on its number?

Re: Thumb indexes

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 11.02.2005 um 23:19 schrieb cormullion:

> My last question! :-)  I would like to have the various ‘parts’ of a 
> book marked with black rectangles at the right side of each page, 
> visible when the reader flips through the pages.

Perhaps you find out looking at the code in 
http://contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_info_style (there are nav tabs at the 
bottom).


Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
http://contextgarden.net

Thumb indexes

[cormullion]

My last question! :-)  I would like to have the various ‘parts’ of a book marked with black rectangles at the right side of each page, visible when the reader flips through the pages. I googled successfully to find ‘fancyhdr’, but that’s a LaTeX package, so I don’t think it will work in ConTeXt. If it’s not too difficult in ConTeXt, can anyone share the secret?

thanks!