Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.

[Carlos via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>]

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On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 07:00:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> On 5/9/2023 6:24 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> > With that being said, in that sense (not that I need it though, to be
> > honest), the luatex lmtx approach is more of an instant gratification,
> > whereas with latex and the metrics of the file afterwards, any math
> > environment is certainly possible, while loading myriad and minion et co
> > without an error
> > 
> > I still stand for what I said earlier. That lot and their heirs already
> > made their money by shoving down acroread all over. It's no secret
> Normally context will fall bakc on latin modern but when you explicitly load
> a font setup and that one doesn't have math fonts it will not be set up
> right and then you get these parameter relates messages. The minion math
> font is supported when you have it installed although we're not sure if the
> tweaks will work okay. I only have an old evaluation copy that I can't use
> outside testing anyway, and I don't have the minion fonts that can be used
> in documents (acrobat fonts are only for display) so I never use minion
> anyway.
> 
> Although every math environment is possible (after all there are not than
> manyu math fonts) one always has to match them properly with serif and sans
> fonts (relative scaling etc).
> 
> When someone wants support for some commercial font, they have to buy us a
> few copies with no constraints. (Normally in a project we just get them
> anyway.) There are plenty of examples in the type-imp-* files that show the
> way.
> 
> Hans

Thanks for the info Hans. I'll check it out again. About a month or
so ago I went over the fonts used in  math with luatex lmtx  and it
was more of a refreshing course than anything else. TeX Gyre and so
forth. And a  similar approach which I used in handling these fonts
in mkii before.

Recently someone made the suggestion of working or the intent to work or
the suggestion or whatever of tackling mnssymbol on luatex. I don't know about
that but.. I don't know. Perhaps I misunderstood

I've used this family of minion and myriad before, but I still think
it has the same audience than the glyphs used by the chinese at the
beginning of the typesetting history> weddings, funerals, pamphlets,
etiquette cards, calendars, arithmetic tables and so forth. It has more
flare than perhaps a lucida. But the latter, subjectively speaking,
is perhaps more dry but also more straightforward and legible. For me
anyway.

But when I see that a simple page and nothing fancy really, cannot be
processed under lmtx no matter how much tweaking is performed under
the hood something is not quite right

the same (similar) screenshot attached here is under latex. Something
similar is what I wanted to have, but couldn't.

I'll check out your suggestion. Thanks again Hans


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