From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29964 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2023 16:08:16 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Jun 2023 16:08:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F16DF8; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 18:07:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mx7PMLCtLVJz; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 18:07:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155EAFCE; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 18:07:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FDEFCE for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 18:07:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xOd0m-3EwgpV for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 18:07:35 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=116.202.254.214; helo=ciao.gmane.io; envelope-from=gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; receiver= Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A409DF8 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 18:07:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Ck0-0002ss-LI for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 18:07:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:07:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4d6bfac1-1ce5-fff0-9309-b07b6879eb76@xs4all.nl> <87fs763n7h.wl-berend@pobox.com> <74549341-ee0c-13ea-82df-4a1156b6c6da@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [NTG-context] knuth X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Carlos via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Carlos Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 04:50:53PM +0200, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 15:18, Alan Braslau via ntg-context < > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > > > > > On 04/06/23 04/06/23, 15:57, Berend de Boer via ntg-context wrote: > > >> Probably some on this list already checked how well chatgpt answers > > >> questions about domains one knows well and then probably noted that in > > >> spite of impressive wording, one can run into quite incorrect answers. > > > > > > I've been using it for ConTeXt, and to be honest, it works amazingly > > > well. It hallucinates sometimes, but it's such a time saver. > > > > Maybe someone should try asking it to write documentation/manuals? > > > > As a teacher, we are accustomed to seeing Google/Wikipedia/etc. > > cut-and-paste nonsense; now, this nonsense appears more polished, and > > our students are none the wiser. Saves them time, too! ;-) > > > > Who said: "the best way to economize thought is not to think at all"? > > > > > not all is bad: sometimes a textual description can replace a formalized > notation, e.g. > https://fosstodon.org/@tao@mathstodon.xyz/110250604086213386 > I can imagine similar examples with tables. > Of course a very high level text is often ambiguous (as some kind of > formalized grammars, after all) > but the example shows that in these cases it is better to fix something > already almost ok than to typeset it from scratch. > > -- > luigi Not all is bad, no, except the company behind chatgpt ought to pay its users for feeding more data into it. It's a westernized company after all. Lots of baggage. I'm surprised it hasn't applied for a patent yet really. > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ -- You know you've been spending too much time on the computer when your friend misdates a check, and you suggest adding a "++" to fix it. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________