Problem with cross references

Problem with cross references

[Robert Blackstone]

Hi all,
I would like to get some advice concerning a problem, or rather a
nuisance, with internal references.
I am making a longish document with several chapters, all of which are
separate .tex-files to be input into the main file, which contains all
setups and the skeleton of the document. There are a number of cross
references between elements that sit in different files.
With some simple test files I checked that this worked and that I use
the proper commands.
However, with the real files it does not work, that is, not
immediately. Even after 4 or 5 runs I still get ?? instead of page
numbers, and then suddenly things are OK. I have no idea what happened
between failure and success and I have no idea what I have to do to
get the proper result immediately.
It is a nuisance because I cannot be sure the thing worked till I have
checked the entire output after each run, which is rather time
consuming.
I’m using the latest version of TeXShop with the minimals of july 20,
but older versions show the same symptoms.
Thanks for any advice.

Robert Blackstone
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Re: Problem with cross references

[Thomas Schmitz]

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:22:32 +0200
  Robert Blackstone <blackstone.robert@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I would like to get some advice concerning a problem, or 
>rather a
> nuisance, with internal references.
> I am making a longish document with several chapters, 
>all of which are
> separate .tex-files to be input into the main file, 
>which contains all
> setups and the skeleton of the document. There are a 
>number of cross
> references between elements that sit in different files.
> With some simple test files I checked that this worked 
>and that I use
> the proper commands.
> However, with the real files it does not work, that is, 
>not
> immediately. Even after 4 or 5 runs I still get ?? 
>instead of page
> numbers, and then suddenly things are OK. I have no idea 
>what happened
> between failure and success and I have no idea what I 
>have to do to
> get the proper result immediately.
> It is a nuisance because I cannot be sure the thing 
>worked till I have
> checked the entire output after each run, which is 
>rather time
> consuming.
> I’m using the latest version of TeXShop with the 
>minimals of july 20,
> but older versions show the same symptoms.
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Robert Blackstone
> 
Difficult to analyze, of course, but one thing that 
occurred to me: are you using a proper project structure, 
with the chapters as components, as described in chapter 
2.3 of the manual, or just using \input for the chapters? 
Right now, I'm editing a book (~ 300 pages) with 
cross-references between chapters, and I don't see any of 
the problems you describe.

Btw, the version of TeXshop is irrelevant to the problem, 
but you may want to update your minimals.

Thomas
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problem with cross references

[Rene van Hassel]

Hello Members,


there is a problem with cross references.
See the piece of code beneath this text.
Under texexec the piece of code works well.
With context there is a problem, the cross references 
of the item(s) don't work, the pdf-file is not interactive.
What is the problem? I hope that somebody can give 
me some advice.
With the hidden blocks there is no problem. 
But with the item(s) there is a problem,


Kind Regards,


Rene' van Hassel

% Code:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupinteraction[state=start,color=orange]
\setupreferencing[state=start]

\defineblock[exercise]
\defineblock[solution]
\defineenumeration[exercise][location=top,text=Exercise]
\defineenumeration[solution][location=top,text=Solution]
\hideblocks[exercise]
\hideblocks[solution]

\starttext

\chapter{First Attempt}
% Begin: First Attempt

% With texexec and context both go well.

\beginexercise
\startexercise[exer-1] First exercise.\crlf
See \in{Solution}[sol-1].
\stopexercise
\startexercise[exer-2] Second exercise.\crlf
See \in{Solution}[sol-2].
\stopexercise
\endexercise

\beginsolution
\startsolution[sol-1]
First solution!\crlf
See \in{Exercise}[exer-1].
\stopsolution
\startsolution[sol-2]
Second solution!\crlf
See \in{Exercise}[exer-2].
\stopsolution
\endsolution

\useblocks[exercise]
\page
\useblocks[solution]
\page

% End: First Attempt

\chapter{Second Attempt}
% Begin: Second Attempt

Problem is, that the references of the items become not interactive 
under mkiv (context). Under mkii (texexec) it is no problem.

\def\nextnumber#1{\the\numexpr#1\relax}
\defineconversion[nee][\nextnumber]

\setupitemize[broad,packed]
\startitemize[nee][left={Ex-},stopper={: },width=1.5cm]
% nee: new exam exercise
% Exercise
\item[221106-Ex-4] Question 221106-Ex-4.\crlf
Solution, see \in{Sol-}[221106-Ex-4-sol].\crlf

% Exercise
\item[221106-Ex-5] Question 221106-Ex-5.\crlf
Solution, see \in{Sol-}[221106-Ex-5-sol].\crlf

% End list of Exercises:
\stopitemize

\page

% Start list of solutions:
%=0
% nsee (new solution exam exercises)
\def\nextnumber#1{\the\numexpr#1\relax}
\defineconversion[nsee][\nextnumber]

\setupitemize[broad,packed]
\startitemize[nsee][left={Sol-},stopper={: },width=1.5cm]
% Solution
\item[221106-Ex-4-sol]
Solution 221106-Ex-4.\crlf
See Exercise \in{Ex-}[221106-Ex-4]\crlf

% Solution
\item[221106-Ex-5-sol]
Solution 221106-Ex-5.\crlf
See Exercise \in{Ex-}[221106-Ex-5]\crlf

% End list of solutions
\stopitemize \crlf

At \at{page}[221106-Ex-4].\crlf
At \at{page}[exer-2].
% End: Second Attempt

\stoptext
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Re: Problem with cross references

[Robert Blackstone]

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM,  Thomas Schmitz wrote:

>  Robert Blackstone <blackstone.robert@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I would like to get some advice concerning a problem, or
>>rather a
>> nuisance, with internal references.

> Difficult to analyze, of course, but one thing that
> occurred to me: are you using a proper project structure,
> with the chapters as components, as described in chapter
> 2.3 of the manual, or just using \input for the chapters?
> Right now, I'm editing a book (~ 300 pages) with
> cross-references between chapters, and I don't see any of
> the problems you describe.
>
> Btw, the version of TeXshop is irrelevant to the problem,
> but you may want to update your minimals.
>
> Thomas

Thank you,
I updated the minimals, thrashed all auxiliary files, ran my "project"
again and everything worked right from the start.

Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
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