From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/64396 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: bib problems Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4CFE4C5E.3020800@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291989327 18239 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 13:55:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:55:27 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Dec 10 14:55:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PR3RQ-000103-WF for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BA3CA8BA; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Ir7MGMmM4QUr; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F77CA8A6; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98388CA8A6 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4e9J0glzVxJk for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (filter1-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B46CA8A5 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from uni-bonn.de (mail1x.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.112]) by filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id oBADtBbv011017 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:11 +0100 Original-Received: from [87.178.52.167] (account tschmit1@uni-bonn.de) by be2.uni-bonn.de (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.12) with HTTP id 5984643 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:55:11 +0100 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.12 In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=131.220.15.112; country=DE; region=07; city=Bonn; latitude=50.7333; longitude=7.1000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.7333,7.1000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 07DFpTbA3 - 8373612d6e54 - 20101210 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.152 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:64396 Archived-At: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:20 +0100 Mojca Miklavec wrote: > I should think about it a bit. But just a few >possibilities ... At the > moment I use: > \startpublication > [k=xy, > t=xy] > .... > \stoppublication > > Options are: When we think from the bibtex side, it would boil down to processing the "keyword=" key (which is already there in the bibtex specification). You could then order your "publications" with terms such as "keyword=image" "keyword=article" etc. > > 1.) > \startpublicationlist[images] or >\startpublications[images] or ... > \startpublication[k=xy,t=xy] > .... > \stoppublication > ... > \stoppublicationlist > > 2.) > \startpublication[k=xy,t=xy,list=images] > .... > \stoppublication > > 3.) > \startpublication[images][k=xy,t=xy] > .... > \stoppublication > > And then > \placepublications[list=images] > > Then \cite would work in exactly the same way (one would >not need to > provide any extra key to cite itself). > > But one would need to think of a proper model to number >the > references. That is: it would have to be configurable to >be able to > either number images with roman instead of arabic >numerals (or with a, > b, c, ...), or to prepend something, like [img1], >[img2], [img3] > instead of [1], [2], [3]. Or simply let the user do "in > \cite{figure}[xy]", or to number images with numbers >bigger than other > references. For example: > > Books: > [1] > [2] > [3] > Articles: > [4] > [5] > [6] > [7] > Images: > [8] > [9] > > or > > Books: > [1] > [2] > [3] > Articles: > [a1] > [a2] > [a3] > [a3] > Images: > [i1] > [i2] > > or any other user-configurable option for numbering ... > > However, having a properly designed model is better than >having some > ad-hoc solution that turns out not flexible enough or >clumsy to use > and buggy later on ... One syntax would be \placepublications[filter=image,prefix={img.},option=continue,numberconversion=romannumbers] > > And yes, something that would allow splitting references >across > sections could just as well be used for this. It just >needs to be > designed properly ... (But section-based bibliography >could work > without any extra key, right?) > > And no, please don't count it as bug report. I just >mentioned it > because Hans wanted to have "a big bunch of everything >at a single > place". > > I suggest to reopen the topic and create exact >specification before > the actual implementation. Yes, we can discuss it (on or off list) when it will be implemented. 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