Re: \setuppublications problem

From: "Thomas Schmitz" <tschmit1@uni-bonn.de>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: \setuppublications problem
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <web-6659096@be2.uni-bonn.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430B533D-33EE-4697-94E0-04DB7744060A@awi.de>

Hi Florian,

On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:45:16 +0100
  Florian Wobbe <Florian.Wobbe@awi.de> wrote:
>> Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or 
>>\placepublications[criterium=text]?
> 
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> you gave me exactly the same hint last week. 

Not only that, but someone gave exactly the same hint to 
Jean in December...

We should
>add criterium=cite and criterium=text to the Wiki 
>(Bibliography MKIV page: 
>http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv).

You are of course right, but I assume Hans is working on 
bibliographies right now (he promised to finish something 
which I need for a project in March, so that leaves him 
another two weeks ;-), so we should maybe wait a bit. 
criterium=cite should work as well, but doesn't right now.

> In the beginning it was not clear to me, that 
>http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography refers to the 
>MKII implementation of Taco. Therefore, I would suggest 
>to rename Bibliography to Bibliography_mkii and create an 
>alias Bibliography that redirects to Bibliography_mkiv 
>instead. In the wiki pages Bibliography_mkiv and 
>Bibliography_mkii the first sentence should state that 
>the page is related to mkii/mkiv only and link to the 
>other page. Do you think this is reasonable?

I had begun rewriting the page. There is now 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliographies which links 
to the other pages, and which is linked to on the front 
page. But another context-related project kept me away 
from this and I never finished this, so fell free to 
shuffle and rewrite things!

> I would like to add a section on customising bibstyle 
>files and add space for sharing reference styles of 
>different journals. What do you think?

Again, that's a very good idea, but we should maybe wait 
just a bit till the dust settles a bit.

> In general I find it difficult to differentiate between 
>mkiv and mkii related  information in the wiki. How could 
>we better structure the wiki to make it easier for the 
>reader? Disambiguation pages, mkiv/mkii sections, 
>independent pages with mkiv/mkii in headerline?

Just my 2 cents on this: difficult, because you won't be 
able to make everybody happy. Every now and then, I see a 
new user on the list who asks about "installing mkiv" and 
doesn't realize that it is not really something which you 
have to install additionally. We shouldn't scare those 
users because in so many cases, mkii and mkiv are exactly 
identical, so that would be an arguments against a too 
stric separation. But of course you're also right that 
it's frustrating for users if they can't find relevant 
information for the areas where the two differ. As long as 
mkiv hasn't settled, this is not easy...

All best

Thomas
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